Anyway, long story that started the connection, Jacques the lay came out to see me. He was the first one and then some other people came out to see me and then I got briefed briefed on two or three times and then I met Lou, who I knew of, but I didn't I didn't know his last name. I knew it was as Louie and I didn't know anything else, but anyway, I went down and went into his, his conference room in the inner corridors of the Pentagon.