Anyway, long story that started the connection, Jacques the lay came out to see me. He was the first one and then some other people came out to see me and then I got briefed briefed on two or three times and then I met Lou, who I knew of, but I didn't I didn't know his last name. I knew it was as Louie and I didn't know anything else, but anyway, I went down and went into his, his conference room in the inner corridors of the Pentagon.
And I will tell you anybody who says that Lou didn't work on this program, they're full of shit. I was there, I met everybody, I met all the people that work for him and with him.
Steve justice from the skunk works lucky morn skunk words came on board and and then Lou member talking to Lou you know and when at the Pentagon and of course Tom didn't know who Lou was and I couldn't tell him who Lou was but Lou decided he was going to you know resign and.
And finally you know I put Lou together with Tom and.
Then Lou came on board and and then Chris melon came on board and then you know we had this big meeting out in Seattle to announce the company and that's what it all started so.
I did want to get into the legacy programs with you actually because you know Lou has mentioned the legacy programs and and that they were kind of like the deep programs and even older programs are where unacknowledged regarding UFOs you know what what's so.
You know, I think, you know, Chris Mellon and Lou Elizondo deserve an enormous amount of credit
information and then Lou had his, Chris had his, Steve had his, Hal had his. But we didn't,
They, they, they really sort of started this whole thing. Lou Wox and Lou, you know,