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I mean, we, we, we've been talking about this for 20 years.

So, years after, uh, people start seeing U.F.O.s over Area 51, for example, they come up with a story.

We've been fighting this battle, some of y'all, for 30 years and maybe longer.

Nikolaj Kapanov, the physicist friend of mine, said, look, if this had happened five years earlier, we would be in prison.

If it had happened 10 years earlier, we would have been shot.

The Air Force is destroying all their police records every three years on a schedule.

level of reprisal or anything happening. Because, you know, I've been in the Navy for almost 24 years,

but what about the sailors that have been in for two years that experience things like this? They're

it's a daunting challenge to get them to open up after lying about it for more than 75 years.

Uh, some of the launches we were doing were like $5 billion projects that had taken like 10 years

come to light. I'm going to go to you, Mr. Knapp, first. You've interviewed numerous UAP whistleblowers over the years.

What is, in your view, having investigated this issue for so many years, what is the long game with respect to disclosure of this information to the public?

That seems to be what some of our witnesses have told us over the years.

Tim Burchett and the other members for sticking with it because, you know, it's come up in Congress before and they had hearings and then they dropped it for 50 years.

I was a gunner's mate on the USS Gettysburg for a couple years.

I don't know anyone who knows the answer for sure. They call them aliens just as a placekeeper kind of a word. But no one in all these programs who've studied this stuff for years, people with much bigger brains than mine, knows the answer for sure.

Yeah. These are people I've worked with for years, deployed with, um, you know, I was in some of the weddings.

really occurred. And as you said, the importance of, of your operation was highly important because, um, they said it's the most important in 25 years.

We've been, you know, the two, three years.

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