The skiff. Look at this place, man.

So this is not the only piece of paper that was...

So in 2008, on the 4th of July, I was on a boat with my father, who's in the Federal Aviation Administration, two retired commercial pilots and a current commercial pilot.

It was almost like they came out of the lights.

And ever since then, I've been obsessed with the phenomenon.

It's the definition of a magician.

Or just the people not doing it.

I think fooling them is a part of the, is one of the ingredients in creating wonder.

And the same could be said for a psyop.

But then the headphones makes it so that you're kind of, it's like, kind of like blinders for your ears.

Well, you've, I know you've been in a real skiff and, uh, tell me the difference between a skiff.

going to be breaking the rules.

It's, you know, you hear about the things that go on in the skiff and the things that

But, but the lawyer, uh, in the movie, you said that the lawyer, that was one of the things he

Was that the American public gets to see some of what I've seen and some of what George

is is is really classified it's whereabouts and and the capability of satellite if you look at

let's say there's two ufos that swarm from the left of camera towards the right kind of make a half loop

participate with dealing with on a daily basis as as a nation and as five eyes so when you have the

is a compressed amount of time of course yeah so you get like the sentence that means the paragraph so

and there's no reason why ufos should be the existence of ufos should not be classified nothing

the technology 100 like you know nuclear science exists but can't give you the codes on how to right

is and here's the dance how do you get into a locked room and you're a puzzle man so maybe you figure

on ufo cases or alien encounters the issue isn't just missing or blurry footage it's that anything i try

extend it into motion by choosing the camera movements the lenses and even the actual camera

same perspective just different takes of the same shot and for what i'm doing it's actually super

it out i highly encourage you to check it out right now i'll let the link in the description and let me

is that the american public has to see what i want to show them because my words don't mean shit

so how do you get in there and bring something because by the time you're bringing something you've

for better because they trust you sure and the one thing i am worthy of is people's trust so here we go

yeah it's already in the hands of journalists and they have a duty to to the public yeah yeah it's a

but also filling up the fucking people they're going to testify going through this massive vetting

which is that these are the people allowed and must be in the room and you tell me who you want

is they they know that if they tell me a lie i will find out and that's been the bane of the existence

spelling okay this spelling okay the georgian i can do that so then imagine this all set up and by the

so it was for that and then what happens is i get a call i'm in the showers from a congressional person

again the rule is nobody because they got a lot of staffers yeah nobody tells arrow and nobody gets

unique ways that i have documented and can prove in the court of law in in what in like what way

repercussions or reprisals i said they went after them so that means a few different things play the

like a month no so two months away no no may 12th oh may 12th is may 12th the bubble burst okay well

there or is it very overt like hey if you don't stop this we'll bury you in the desert like what's

dylan raised his hand and got all the way there and he testified so clearly i'm not talking about him

mm-hmm so that just started being opened by the time this airs it might have been i hope i hope exposed

and by telling the world what people in our country did to whistleblowers and who's involved from the

we have dirty laundry right so i i don't know that's interesting and so this section of the podcast

yeah not to blame the whole agency right sure right so so what does that look like well i think the way

shit down for me this morning right um like what your language is do people spell the word magic the

a cia persona feels like an orange mug that says the flying saucer okay odni is like a glass of water

allegedly odni would have oversight in a pyramid all the way down to every intelligence agency

is beholden or sorry beholden yeah i'd say beholden to the pentagon but i would i would typically say

has a great mentor i get things wrong all the time so i'm telling you now i believe this to be the case

to have a distinct odor feel and smell so the way arrow goes about it is they will have um for example

be kind of safe about my words but like chief wiggins okay he testified to the world raised his hand

that is beginning and then if he declines again and by the way when they catch you on the phone and

gotta put out the fires the no they need to do a contr have control of the burn so so that is one way

getting in trouble this is a high level thing but what they're trying to do is spread a word on the wash

when i brought when i kept commander that's so subtle like it feels i'm telling you the subtle

of their sailors they got the backs of them that's true that's fact about the navy so then the we'll

position yeah the secretary of war okay so that was their flex which made me fucking laugh i got it

possibly do because it's such bullshit yeah so now we're in the thick of that that's like i'll tell the

to sit you in the corner and you will fucking answer and you will interview with us even though

of story because they're trying to create a message that then flows through the navy now that is the

inert and we're going to move to um i think we'll move to covert okay so so covert um or should it was the

read the room okay funny story about auntie but anyway they can read and there is a violently

10 years never seen this guy so you buy a beer and you put the beer down right next to the guy

happen to have a reporter watching who can read and the individual says something exactly like

sure okay so i'm not trying to be evasive give me the soda could you could you take this guy in a

notices he walks up into the woods not yet he walked up into the woods oh that's creepy yeah

no i think what i said was i didn't say the exact words you said i don't recall what i

all right um i i will do a disclaimer about my my brain uh at the later that's fine my memory no

watched the movie um which by now they would have um they'll get a glimpse into who you are okay and how

gave you one which is like the calls then i gave you one where the guy kind of starts off covert and

understand the meaning of that pin right and so that is overt even though yeah nothing is quite said

best just i'm making sure the camera's rolling i know so i'm giving you cover yeah okay i'm trying

that's right that the screen's gonna go out okay boom all screens going okay so so now we're kind

killed all the time for what they know that does happen and that's not just ufo related that's like

that is also a message to the people that need to hear the message

hurt somebody yeah then the best way to do it is covert should make them go away no that's remember

the first place for other jobs you have to be a little bit of um sociopathic tendencies to be chosen

because he told the truth to the world that we were waterboarding and torturing people so he served

because it was the right thing to do and he'd do it again right so kind of reeling me back in to the

um is is there anything that leads you to believe that that is the case or is it a hunch no i know i i i

ever be clear on this yeah just let's pause the podcast right now i mean let's keep rolling but just

paid the 300 to get that ad in there and that sucks because because then you realize america's

prove that okay okay so but yeah whatever it doesn't matter sure um but but here's the deal but that's

the chris ramsey threat and my mom and my wife so you're sitting there and the fbi is informing you

have personally experienced it but let's talk about the other witnesses and what's happened to them

very clear and in the interview that you released with matt and both interviews with george as well

we're always just told that we're never told the specifics is it because it's dirt is it like what

recorded audio video pushed up to the cloud spread out on servers encrypted and then spread out so

so you the movie opens with if i recall with a cia veteran yes so let me let me show you the shape

but i mean that's supposed to be the nsa okay yeah you know more than i do so here we go i mean i you

talk to somebody just by like memorizing the streets of a small town right like you know they'll they'll

the most um i respect their methodologies because they never fully say what they're saying until they

proven to you and you were informed about that then if that doesn't work then the next thing is hey man

fucking massage you know the whole thing you didn't read my profile you have to talk to me

know that happened now the question it and they affirm that that happened meaning you have your

at the instagram profile have her assumed name pass it on to doj okay so all of a sudden you've got

i might hold one but that card ain't even supposed to be in the deck

the next thing that occurs because you ain't buying that because here's why tell me if you already

hyperbole no i'm speaking of hyperbole oh there's no internet under the ground no but i mean time

it you know moonwalk from z to a sure but i'll just finish this this is what you said the word hyperbole

only time it percolates to the surface or there's a puncture and you and you see behind that veil

important but the only time that we as normies see a penetration or a poke like the the ancient greeks

right the only time you get to see that i get to see that is when it's too late when when you've already

is paranoia which i have never been one day in my life like the word conspiracy theorist is a is a

know i know it's well it doesn't seem easy to talk about and especially you know after watching the movie

but the michael lazowski made the movie well the movie is uh really good watch i i the art yeah the

moments and the in-between moments were put forward as the main moments and the main moments were kind

it is hard for people because people now you're conscious of the camera and so you become self

is something i had a i had a tv show we did one season of and i was the executive producer and the

to do if they're cognizant if the camera's around so what we would do is uh the camera would be filming

what'd you can you describe what happened in that magic trick and if the camera's there they go

sure you want so what happened with john lear yeah with john lear it was much of the same the first of

hasn't come out yet this is the first time that i'm talking about this movie and i don't know if

time like a weapon and then i know the camera's going or whatever but it's never about the camera

do we have fear about the way we're perceived it's fear of not being loved okay hold on give me a my

the same thing yeah oh so agreed now we can move on yeah okay um so i mean that was a really nice

kitchen with his wheelchair is that my head and then you go on with the wheelchair so the reason why

that in fact the opposite is true that sometimes when you put a camera on someone

started for me on this end of it and i realized that that's the kind of person that i want to interview

healing it's cathartic and i put that in a little box and i buried under the ground and and that

lear said that so here's the deal with that is that healing thing and my being on this side i realized

actually be trustworthy the only problem with trust is it doesn't end once somebody trusts you

right now no preparation and i will give you i'll show you the receipt but i brought i brought a

receipts you would collect those and you would create a book and you would tell the world so what

contagion and that spreads and it's that this guy can keep his mouth shut because the biggest part of

personality as well because all you know you're clearly someone who has an ability to you have the

where people lean in they do okay and some people and this is for the people out there listening some

corbell gotcha uh but i've seen jeremy corbell without the camera and i think everybody who has met jeremy

like you said something to the effect of the first hour is just so you know who i am kind of deal and

trustworthy and then i realized that towards the end he shows you some and i think it's important

for me i don't have the same experience yeah there's there's a there's a few like really interesting uh

hands right so at one point um i throw my hands up as a young kid and he cuts immediately to the

is a choice the first time after that it's it's repeated so i gave him 20 years of footage and 99.9

he's like dude we got to turn on the camera fresh i'm like i said we're not doing that and then he's

kid i just want to not get off him yet michael lazowski right out of afi i think is the term like

should ask him what the one condition i had was for him to make and use my 20 years of footage

know that to be good because the last thing you want is a puff piece right you know if you like oh

being like oh yeah that's chairman now i gotta kill the guy or what what do you know okay no you gotta

to be there you know and you see you're fluffing up the pillows for him when he's shirtless on the

um towards the end and it made me really sad because even when we were friends he'd get really

couldn't find um but he would because you know everything in the movie you see is actual that

first time so that was kind of i'm going to give you a hint that was kind of the only condition

that was the only thing about michael because the thing about me with movies i've always wanted to make

perforation and the hummingbirds touching the firmament to look like stars but i've never done that

this character that john lear had been chatting with the the guy who told him about the afterlife

i like that yeah i don't know uh sleeper by the way he is an absolute sweetheart sure i feel kind of bad

lies to make the other and the other one knows that they're lying so lear is dying yeah and lear

it because what happens is in reality too sleeper is a really the limited exposure i have to very

moment where that guy where you set the camera and you have him walk into the hotel and sit down

talking head understood sorry did you start on the talking head that's what everybody does

in the sit down the trying to act normal and that's it and i i thought that was really uh endearing

there you know there's all this going on yeah there's the edgar mitchell stuff which i thought was

of like disagreement on the moon landing for obvious reasons um which which is interesting uh you have um

it's a top hat that is a tinfoil hat at the atomic test museum and somebody says something like is

and also because i just haven't watched the movie much but i believe nick pope is sitting far away

hour and a half which he knew was being recorded as an hour and a half of me sitting there and the

who had passed away oh my god bro it's on tape play the tape back moonwalk zeta i'm just saying there's

home uh you know which is really you know kind of shed some light on you know the the figures in this

that all up and reuben langdon did the citizen hearing on disclosure in 2013 he is the the force

all this stuff i'm not ufo land can wait reuben langdon is the unsung hero of the citizen hearing

definitely go check it out but this is the one that danny sheehan refers to as well about this

it was told to us like this is the last chance and it was like a family member of his who kind of made

it that's always an option okay but i believe from knowing the guy for this much time and being in that

her religious views and he is there and he does the interview that's his mic drop then he dies that is

what people might not yet understand until the words are spoken and hopefully they do is that

if people have access to the closest guarded secret in human history that has been held back from the

their father's fathers were trusted with a secret now here's the rub that person dies

of course but but for the most part you know sometimes better than their dads at acting yeah

you if i certainly want to go back to ufos um am i derailing you no okay no i like this i like the

yeah what a genius because you know you got to think about the task at hand you got to think

so okay and love the audience by the way yeah yeah i'm not trying to be a dick to the audience i think

not a nepo baby so all of this is your brain and and you're gonna say and the the team of people i work

this is the pro interviewer who turning it on me i thought you said we're just talking we are just

is a witness to that in the the the container that the 115 was held in um was on the mantle

real genius the movie so this is straight out of that so lazar does a test right um it is no secret

there's a lot that the world will never hear i don't think unless bob says it but like there's no secret

and i'm in the living room i remember this and then finally i just said bob like why why am i here

world can hear from you and not the about you from other people he goes of course that's why we're

that knows him because he's bob he doesn't feel the need he doesn't feel the need to prove to

him by the way um my car just uh took a that night and it's never to be retrieved again i tried for six

out perfect it did work out yeah so we're in the woods and just real talk you know um got a camera

the movie since i put it out but that clip and others i've put out that were kind of hit the

bam bam get some photos photos are of an fbi raid i'm in the bathroom like all that stuff that's

because in new mexico they raided they raided him and the the the reason that they gave was like

this company and we're shipping all of these things and we might as well file the paperwork because

opportunity to raid them under that you see the word okay so then now so i'll put it i am convinced

friends in the fbi and i asked them is this usual nope is this normal nope is this protocol nope you

have the list of your clients and what exactly what they ordered that are associated with this federal

hmm something happened that day in those woods that didn't make sense until you play the tape back you

hilarious thing that you don't see is um later in the woods in that footage i don't think you ever see

the worst thing he could do is let somebody make another movie about him it's the worst thing he could

let's get it all out of the way let's go into the base i'll reconstruct the base for you the ship

that and this is before the movie comes out yeah we're going to know by the time this airs if it was

appeases people who just uh nag him for more information perhaps appeases a lot of the skeptics

you know good riddance if if that's the case and if they're uh they'll never be satisfied but if

it but anyone on the fence anyone on the fence at this point watches that movie and goes oh no i

know you've no reason to be on the fence anymore okay that's cool if the movie does that yeah but

bobness you know in the sense of like he has what he needs which is peace like i don't think he gives a

past because the movie's already out time dilation and uh and it's already out there and and and bob's

um i can relate to it in the sense that the only reason i'm letting this movie come out

obviously the culmination and the pinnacle sort of moment the the critical mass of this movie the

and here's the interesting part too this is a little subtlety to you know how guarded you are about this

camera on your laptop versus you're wrong you do see some footage in the movie you just forgot oh you

no you you see the footage but and it's not about the footage yeah but you don't do you see the actual

right so okay let me start this again you're at the park bench you crack open the laptop you put

very interesting file names i must have paused it 12 times to just look at the names of the files

i'm like and the the funny thing was this no don't change anything it has to be true and and and so

so let's no i want to i want to talk about the footage first okay so the footage yeah you should

and that we have a methodical multi-year process not just to protect sources which is the a number one

like the truth matters and that's our duty as journalists so george and i did make a decision

saw it and we made that decision so yes chris ramsey of course after the movie comes out

in america under the first amendment being a journalism uh being in journalism because um it's not just

a there's a note on the bottom of that uh shot as well which is um i forget what it says but it's

beginning where um i got a whole fucking treasure trove from no no that i saw because uh from the

sensitivity so i have to take time to make sure that i do no harm right that happens all the time

adversarial government right so there we go i get a package now this is from the person who is head of

the old schoolers used to do is they took their ufo files and used to call them atmospheric anomalies

well i'm talking about at the end there's another file right was it kind of like gold or was it kind

out yeah symbiotic symbiotic that's right yeah they were afraid that the aliens that the biosymbiotic

does the symbiotic relationship mean yeah you get something and you give in return and you're both

parasitic oh thank god yeah i would say symbiotic would be more like the hippopotamus and those little

mean to not redact that well we redacted other things you redacted the names yeah well those

and everybody knows this bomb is coming but then the other ones the hook or the uppercut you hide those

quick yeah i mean it's out i want to uh by the time this talk is it's out that's true yeah you can read

gives people a reference to when these conversations happened just like the bob lazar conversation i had

the skiff look at this place man

years of filming john lear is the most evasive okay but who's the most evasive interview of somebody

are the most evasive are like my everyday i eat them for breakfast lunch and dinner i call people

you know but the most evasive are like when an intelligence agent calls me up with badge contact

find out what's going on even if i you know don't get to the last answer it's when they try to entrap

or other biochemicals have been disposed of at this site and to determine the presence and or extent of any

aliens that sounds like something out of a bad science fiction novel like it's crazy exactly the word

paper to be shown is you're saying help you're saying so did you look at the file structures there

confidential into another confidential area you're reading between the lines yeah okay so there we are

you smuggled something out of a skiff so that's real now the other side of the coin is i also know

a point where i have to stop okay the other side of that coin is that i also know not a prank i also

like bank account numbers to black programs you'd imagine so if i imagined that so this is not the

thoughtfully and that's hard for me sometimes what you see is what you get dude from the heart to the

means that i know i allowed it to be in the movie because i think it is worthy of public discourse

we're going to learn what's true and not true about that page is this the biggest

that there's when when i say there is an army of whistleblowers ready to come forward i went on the

you know those old mj12 documents those oh yeah that just read like yeah they're you know the psalm

what are we talking about ai robot aliens okay so um they're how the theory goes is that

means well i don't know not an organism look you do the math what i'm telling you is that there are

it permeates out whatever the word is okay um um there's a word a really good word and it basically

little club and they'll walk in with like a full-on hazmat and where's the bathroom i mean it's like

the sunlight a lot in a lot of ways you know they're they're really but if you're in there you must be on

you know what i mean how does that whoa that's pretty cool where's the bathroom again but they

shit because it's you know because the classification and you just you know you wouldn't really know tons

figure out later and you take it i'd be like well so what's the deal what's the deal if it's a known

they appear to be but there are consequences and sometimes the consequence is just the pain you feel

and that's what's at stake with the ufo game all right jeremy thank you we're going to answer some

join and become a member one of the many perks that you get is you're able to potentially have one of

neither do i because i don't know the question it's a good question the fuck oh

be the only one really that understands all cards on the table fuckhead

okay no armor what would be the most smoking gun evidence you would like to release but can't

of instantaneous motions the first time in your life and mine and the world's that publicly there's a

instantaneous motion that's the piece that definitely they you know whoever the controllers didn't want out

so was our entire intelligence community within the united states and so i feel like i've put pretty

crushing weight of the cumulative footage and i hope the public gets to see more and better i'm gonna

split another hair so clear as day clear as day to me is independence day like coming out of the clouds

are of the triangular nature well yeah sure there are there's triangles there's tic tacs there's ovals

full high resolution image example the mosel orb yes that's a great high definition image right well

something like full motion video so you would say that's clear as day because the capability of

right and it's like blasting something but it's so clear it's like the clearest 4k footage you can see

that is can you say the words immaculate constellation with me sure yeah okay so why do you think that is

calls i i got a call i need to walk you through it if you want to know the answer i absolutely do here

years i've been you know had this job and this is the first time in 10 years when we saw clear as day

want to replay it one more time and for the first time in 10 years you normally can go back in 10

he's right which are two different things the way it is is he understands if he's right and he said that

real world so during the height of the um drone incursions on the east coast there is a sensitive

of the water rotates i think that's 90 degrees goes over this base and hovers for maybe 10 hours whoa

used by a department of energy and then the honeywell system sits this file and it's like burning a hole

contact fbi because they we see in the papers they they're being stonewalled and we say look we have

dance and finally it's like yes we can do this dance and the second that they said yes we can do this

and i just found out by the doe so think about that i'm setting you up for your answer now okay

everybody wants to know that why aren't we not seeing the full motion video satellite full motion

delivered in search of answers outside of the intelligence community sure but that high fidelity

so why aren't you seeing it chris because the pool is tiny unless there's some mandate to be honest

ways to puncture the truth oh i see it doesn't matter what you do i'm saying to everybody i've never

don't need our government and our military to figure out the truth they don't know the truth

that's true yeah what if you kick a sleeping dog what happens then what does the dog do to you yeah

seeing the actual thing would like rock my world but a story like that for me kind of has the same

ask george that question one day too see if he has the same answer and he goes no of course not

they literally say to you sometimes like some of the intel guys when they're working against you they

um and i don't know like you would probably well you mentioned that in the movie i did that someone

everybody's butt mine or something planet earth the greatest show in the solar system

yeah back right right before um six months before uh the uh three-eye atlas became popularly understood

i am not psychic i make the joke i don't know when my coffee pot's going to go off even when i set the

pressured for a long time for my mouth to be used for what i considered a false narrative the false

which i have mapped out everybody connected to that one specific lie to the american public

i said i told the guy i don't think you want it in this show of yours but yet he puts it in thank you

have no idea who's on your podcast bring out the book i'd have no you know what let's not play that

to say that with the same message the ex bro down to the down to the point where i have a catalog of

reference 11 plus years of what's been said to me so i know exactly the mosaic of that information

don't have but yeah i just um look and again if i'm wrong who cares would be the greatest day of my

well where the government's going to you know fake an impending alien invasion in order to you know

when you have people from these agencies who are the government telling you that there's an invasion

that the reason this messaging has percolated to yours and my ears and the public's is because that's

this you're never going to be told the truth straight by any government agency and not just because

and untruth to their behest that is the goal and what's your goal my goal and what when their goal is

the truth is that's my goal jeremy corbell thank you brother friend thank you friend yeah appreciate you and

play this game anymore yeah fair enough all right no wishing you all the best thanks brother