when you got to A tip and started working on UAP, you, you had 11, 12 years or
And then it was, as you said correctly, soon after that is when I got exposed to the government's UAP program, UFO program.
had basically started this thing called OSAP and was saying we need to look into not just our history with UAP, but we need to look into what this is from a national security threat perspective.
Even himself had his own UFO sighting, his own UAP sighting while he was flying a mission. Then you also had astronaut John Glenn at the time.
quote, because that's what he said to me that he was read on to the UAP program.
And so he indicated to me that he was really, really upset. And this is how he started getting very vocal and about his concern that certain elements in the US government were hiding the truth about UFO about UAP.
or even J Stratton will probably tell you more about the all sat part started. So all set was a contract vehicle that looked at UAP, but also looked at other stuff.
So anyway, long story short, the A-Tip piece was really more focused on nuts and bolts. So we were looking at military encounters, aircraft encounters, Navy ship encounters with UAP and things that we were picking up, not just with gun camera footage and flea footage, pod footage, things that we could also cooperate with radar data, hard data, right?
But essentially to keep it simple, maybe the focus of the exact types of events you're looking for or, or context of UAP technically like has a shift or whatever between OSAP and A-Tip.
That is correct. And you are, you are evaluating the national security implications of UAP, which is the term you guys, I guess, we're coming up with back then.
Chora it's in a nutshell without going too far down the rabbit hole Brazil had been experiencing some UAP issues and in some cases
these UAP or UFO encounters were were disruptive to the local population and so there's an area in Brazil called
in doctors and other investigators and the result of which was yeah that these guys were actually some of the Brazilian soldiers were injured by by UAP and had
experiences as reported by them in some cases not just being terrified but potentially even being being pursued by these by these UFOs by these UAP which is by the way
these things are not flying at 3,200 x miles an hour some of these UAP are flying at 10,000 13,000 miles an hour and they're doing it in a low
because they spend most of their time in that one environment right if you want an object to operate in multiple environments there's more sacrifices to your design and your performance capabilities that's just the way it is we're not seeing that with these uap they are able without having to change a performance or their design they can operate seemingly and seamlessly
ain't kidding yeah don't I know so again we we tried to approach the uap topic the same as we did
if a tip contributed anything it it it contributed a level of rigor behind the UAP topic from a
largely happened not just in America but in other places around the world where these UAP are
and that's why it was oh this is a great discovery in a UAP that mankind no it's not it's just
claimed to come up close and personal with a uap and they sustained a medical consequence now
that's the fact but whether they were actually UAP or related UAP I can't tell you that I don't know
alleged and I would say even like known history involving UAP that have been witnessed or incidents
classifying information simply because they didn't want to tell people the truth about UAP and
not relate to it though if it's involved with UAP which is like the ultimate like national source of
by the way but if we we have data on uap that we think no one else may have or don't know if other people
paradigm and so from my my perspective might would rise me every single day isn't the UAP topic
people think oh UAP it's not it's it's ultimately it's I took an oath to defend this country from
to for example in this particular topic UAP where you have people not informing members of congress
and accountability it's not just the UAP issue people are the UFO guy not not that's that's one
if we're not careful with this uap topic if it hasn't already started to it could become a
level conversation and by the way it's not just with uap you can see it right now look at the two
because crap I've learned and it has nothing to do with the UAP community I mean I'm telling you
what happens we start recalibrating our radar to look for uap boom surveillance satellite from China
a particular UAP incident that really was you know it would have definitely been another gold standard