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And like you said in the first meeting when LeCasca asks you have you thought about UFOs and you're like, no, well now suddenly you're thinking about UFOs, UIPs. Do you have a moment where I don't know if it's like you left to yourself like is this really my life like are we doing this or you're like, holy shit like this stuff's real and like was there this reality moment where you're just sitting outside and looking into the looking into the sky going, oh my god, like what am I getting myself into here?

And so it's not really that big of a deal. This is a little different because you've been told for so long that it's BS right now it's like well okay wait a minute so the two types of people I've noticed there's these group of people that have this a ha revelatory moment and I've seen it when I've been briefing them even at the Pentagon it's like oh my god it hits them like a ton of bricks like you mean they're real like this is real like no kidding this is a joke.

You ask me about intelligence right sides it's it's it's a lifelong journey oh my god yeah yeah and it's like you know you don't at the beginning you don't know the scope of it at all you you just realize okay we are.

like a god a little bit if this is the case to make sure we don't destroy ourselves so I interviewed

because of their involvement in Rendrel Shim and that's just one example thank god it was for

pocket what did say in there in God we trust yeah I mean look I hate to break it to you but

either see people who are like no he's been sent by God you know not literally God himself to

feeling that comes in like oh my god if only these people knew you know what I mean but that's

you know steal a pen for god's sake steal something do you believe in god well I believe in the

god of Einstein he believed in god but not the god that intervenes in human affairs it was the

god of order the god of simplicity and elegance Einstein was asked the question did the universe have

because god forbid god forbid that this turns out to be adversarial technology because what would

have this urge to call them and they're like oh my god I was just thinking of you right it's I

as it currently stands do you believe in God absolutely I think I think knowledge reinforces

information doesn't threaten God all it does is threaten our understanding of God and there's a

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