so in you know our the art bell show right yes so in 2002 i think it was about summer of 2002
under neuro that's wild it's a yeah it's a really interesting story and it just went on art bell once
and i'm trying to track this down because mark uh drew sketches of this for art bell and he also
provided art bell the names of the other navy guys he was with so i want to track these guys down and
for art bell and i'm trying no luck because art bell has passed but gosh would that be would that be