and jesse talked about jake barber and some of the psionics and stuff right he felt like there was
it sounds somewhat familiar but i'm not fully i think jesse was the one who told me about it
know you and jesse talked a little bit about why ufos crash jonathan hypothesizes that this was
think about that i know you've talked to jesse a little bit kind of on your stance about ufo where do
jesse were talking about is like he was explaining how all this anti-gravity research went dark in the
the bahamas that mean that jesse was talking about oh out tech out tech yeah is that still is that thing
something like that yeah uh our good mutual friend jesse michaels was just on joe rogan and they
joe and jesse both said no i i think elon's bsing a little bit about that because it's the world of
again um jonathan no no the other guy this guy who went on jesse he talked about the psionic stuff oh
i've never heard anyone say anything nice about him except for jesse michaels jesse michaels is the one
the description of that sphere is almost identical to a witness that jesse and i both covered uh randy
you and jesse talked about it not only do they have ties to ronald moultrie who was uh
talked about it with jesse but on late in his life in 1992 to move on to move on researcher irene scott
board robert sarbacher i'm forgetting his official title but brilliant physicist brilliant guy jesse
of them and you know some of the guys like i think the guy that that jesse interviewed the um
of that esoteric stuff i'll leave that in the consciousness studies to jesse because he's got a
technology because i know jesse talked about it with you or i can't remember where jesse talked about
know i think you and jesse talked about it robert hastings and ufos and nukes and how ufo swarm nuclear
there was some guy or no maybe jesse talked about it with rogan too there was some guy who basically
interesting stuff on the moon i know jesse and joe were talking about the dark side of the moon how
do you tell people your real name uh i think jesse said it once so it's it's okay okay so yes so go