we had what's his name the nasa engineer kevin newth or he was kevin knuth he wasn't an engineer he
that sort of multi-sensor detection is is really what what can help push the envelope and kevin knuth is
the water in 1950 and i think kevin knuth talked about a new zealand destroyer case just off of new
oh i'm trying to god who was that i think we talked about this with kevin knuth as well
to innovate yeah and i've never heard i even asked kevin about this when i was on when we were on here