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If all of this sounds crazy, well, yeah, I don't blame you.

Well, I was a weather observer in the U.S. Air Force, and I was stationed at Nellis Air Force Base from March of 1965 until May of 1967.

Well, folklore from the Utah tribe had already marked the land as cursed, prowled by shapeshifters.

And FDR just said, well, I want the sheep to be safe.

You say, well, we did Mount Everest before that, right?

Well, it sounds like, you know, protecting sheep with, you know, anti-aircraft technology, the most advanced at the time.

Yeah, well, it seems like if you'd fire a few live rounds, wouldn't you kind of scare them a little bit, right?

Well, remember how good their technology is, the technology of the whites and the technology of the grays.

Well, I was in the cargo hold at the time because there was, as I describe in my books, the day after I thought I'd broken my kneecap and then it healed up,

if I was healthy and well rested, it didn't quite do the job.

Well, one time I asked a different person who was one of the top, identified himself as one of the top three psychiatrists at the CIA.

even if they're not talking. Well, if you're debriefed and they're very touchy about their children,

Well, the Friday that they came in, the captain is off playing golf.

I say, well, because my cover orders are in a different location than their orders, but they're not locked up.

Well, I ask the sergeant—I got no orders.

Well, I'm in the base, and everybody else is getting paid, and I'm at weather school, and I'm the best student in the class.

They said, Well, we'll decide what to do, right?

Well, the first time that I heard tell of the tall whites at Nellis was at my very first duty session at Nellis with another airman, which I describe in my book.

And I said, well, gee, I thought if you slept, I didn't realize that you could actually walk and see things when you were sleepwalking.

Well, to begin with, I'd like to thank you for this nice interview. And if I don't fit in having us on your podcast, I'd like to congratulate you on just out thinking Einstein.

When you say, what's it feel like to be smarter than Albert Einstein? I say, well, I know a guy. It's not just me, because what you say is correct.

Mm-hmm. The first one is that if you do the experiment with one photon at a time in the interferometer, you get the same results. And that means that the photon has to be split in two for that to work. Today we call that photon entanglement. But back then they said, well, I don't know, spook you at a distance, right?

If you look at the symmetry of the Andromeda galaxy, and you say, well, it's, what, 10,000, 100,000 light years, 200,000 light years across.

And that means that, and it's so well organized.

However, you say, well, what about the neutrinos that say are measured at the CERN reactor?

Well, if they're going to interact using electricity and magnetism, then they have to slow to that speed,

If you say, well, what are the permittivity of free space for those other force fields?

Well, I'll give you some general principles, okay?

Like, but one, for example, looks like… Well, you see how this house is? One that I personally saw was a little bit longer than this house, a little bit wider than this house, about half again as high as this house.

And he didn't think it was made very well. He pointed out that to repair it, you had to sit the craft down somewhere, like in the desert, and go outside and open it up to repair it. But that the real deep spacecraft, you could repair everything from the inside.

Because they were showing… Because they were showing… That there were five different… Subatomic particles… And that when they designed them… They first said… I'm going to use this one… For this purpose… This one… For this second one… For another purpose… And so on… And so… They were showing them… That they had five different… Purposes… For that… In the design… You see… And… Okay… But… Those who… You know… Who… Who… Who mean well

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