People like Gordon Cooper.
Well, Gordon Cooper, uh, who was one of the Mercury 7 astronauts.
And Gordon Cooper was one of the speakers as well.
And we had, we spent basically the weekend with Gordon Cooper.
So, uh, Cooper said that he had witnessed and I guess he was on the radio back with the ground control.
And, but Gordon Cooper is saying that he literally experienced the UFO while he was orbiting earth.