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There's a guy named Townsend Brown.

Okay, okay, Townsend Brown. I want to look that up.

The popular account of Brown is that he's an amateur quack.

Townsend Brown is Nikola Tesla meets the Dos Equis guy.

Brown is at Martin Corporation the same year Skunk Works gets founded.

Townsend Brown was even a close confidant and colleague of Robert Sarbacher's.

Brown's 1953 Winter Haven proposal almost exactly resembles how all insiders describe America's secret UFO program.

Previously, the Townsend Brown fan club has been relegated to obscure forums on the dark corners of the internet.

Townsend Brown's like potato chips.

But just last year, far more concrete details have emerged about Brown's life, thanks to Paul Shatzkin, the author of Brown's amazing new biography, The Man Who Mastered Gravity.

The story is a vindication of Brown, a resounding defense of his work.

And if you're interested in Bob Lazar, I'd say Brown's work even provides a better explanation of the whole Bob Lazar story than Bob Lazar himself.

I also learned from Townsend Brown's daughter, Linda, that the inventor would constantly speak of biblical UFOs and aliens behind closed doors and with his family.

I may be the world's expert on Townsend Brown.

And finally, I get to grill a Navy scientist who holds a deep understanding of the fundamental and theoretical implications of Brown's work, but cannot reveal his identity for fear of reprisals.

So without further ado, hit subscribe and prepare to take a stroll down the rabbit hole with this week's American alchemist, the godfather of American dark science, and the original UFO architect, Thomas Townsend Brown.

And now, Townsend Brown.

Thomas Townsend Brown was born in Zanesville, Ohio in 1905 to a wealthy family.

From a young age, Brown dreamed of interstellar travel and alien contact.

To go back to the very beginning in the Townsend Brown story, he was a student, and I think this might have been when he was at Caltech, when they were doing experiments with Crookes X-ray tubes.

The Bifield-Brown effect is an anomalous physics principle at the heart of this story, and it also invites the most controversy.

Many institutions and people have tried to either downplay or falsify Brown's experiments.

For example, in 1990, the Air Force tested a Bifield-Brown experiment in a vacuum, but they only used 19 kilovolts instead of the megavoltage Brown was using.

One of the things that seems to be a consistent theme through all of the various steps in Brown's life is the need for extremely high voltages at extremely low currents.

Besides using laughably low voltage, the other way people have historically written Brown off is by saying that the thrust created by the system is simply a product of ion wind pressure.

But in 1956, Jacques Corneon, a French Air Force officer and technical representative for one of France's largest aircraft companies, Sued West, facilitated Brown's experiments in a vacuum in the Montgolfier facility in Paris.

Still fully lucid, the 98-year-old French aerospace veteran confirmed the Montgolfier report's findings and the bizarre anomalous effect he witnessed with Brown's, an effect that flew in the face of conventional science.

As Brown said after the experiment himself, in short, it appears there is strong evidence that the Bifield-Brown effect does exist in the negative to positive direction in a vacuum of at least 10 to the negative 6th torr.

That's basically just a fancy way of reiterating that Brown believed he had figured out a possible link between electromagnetism and gravity, and that the thrusts he witnessed with his charged disks were far greater than what could be explained away by ionic wind.

The second reliable witness to Townsend Brown's experiments is Agnew Bonson, air conditioning magnate and anti-gravity and physics patron out of University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill.

While serving as a patron for Townsend Brown's experimental gravity work, Bonson holds the 1957 Chapel Hill Conference, the goal of which was to bring together the world's top theoretical physicists to understand gravity.

And if you just swap out mass and replace it with energy in what Weinstein is saying here, you have an exact description of Townsend Brown's work.

So if you were to remove relativity's positivity conditions, you may provide a plausible theoretical framework for Townsend Brown's work.

And remember, Townsend Brown was working with Bonson while the Chapel Hill Conference was being held.

And according to author Paul LaViolette, Brown was even at the conference.

Electrogravitics was basically a term invented around Townsend Brown's work.

But how do we know the lowbrow, applied version of anti-gravity, Townsend Brown's electrogravitics, wasn't actually effective yet strategically stigmatized because of its defense implications?

The next credible witness of Townsend Brown's work is a guy named Victor Bertrandius, a major general in the Air Force who helped negotiate the Japanese surrender in World War II,

Bertrandius paid an unannounced visit to a demo of Brown's Gravitator at the Townsend Brown Foundation in 1952.

He came up with the idea for using capacitors in Brown's experiments.

And Byfield says, I think it might be a capacitor. So that's the origin. That's why he calls it the Byfield Brown effect.

But detractors like to claim that Brown and Byfield never met.

And then this affidavit comes out later, Paul Byfield definitely met Towns and Brown.

who observed Brown's experiment at his home in Berkeley with Brown's daughter Linda and Teller's wife Augusta present.

Teller was completely dumbstruck by Brown and his demo.

And then there's a 1943 FBI file on Brown that Shatzkin has recently surfaced.

It says that Brown knew more about radar detection than any individual in the US Navy.

But I am saying that the idea that Brown was a failed hack quickly dissolves upon doing a little research.

When Shatzkin tries to use the Freedom of Information Act to retrieve Brown's records from the Navy,

Then when Shatzkin provides them with 20 plus letters between Brown and the research laboratory, they deny his request.

When Townsend's daughter, Linda Brown, makes the same request, citing a special clause that family service requests have to be honored,

they first give her the records of the wrong Townsend Brown, a naval commander.

They hint to her that a lot of Townsend Brown's work was classified.

When Tom Vallone of the Integrity Research Institute tried to locate a copy of an appraisal of Brown's experiments conducted in 1952 by the Naval Research Laboratory,

the laboratory no longer had it. The paper was called the T.T. Brown Electrogravity Device.

So why exactly did Brown have such a quacky reputation, his work getting completely stigmatized?

You see, in 1950, during a demo in Pearl Harbor, Brown's work was compromised by a Soviet spy acting as a janitor.

Brown was so disconcerted that from that point on, he began showing people the wrong version of his work to throw them off the trail on the real science underlying it.

Brown then engages on his own self-discrediting campaign to divert attention from the work that was taken into the Black Realm.

Brown would show people his fluid dielectric system rather than the real, solid dielectric gravitator.

The fluid dielectric is what's behind the Lifter technology. Small tinfoil triangles seen in countless DIY YouTube videos. These sort of make Brown's work look like an eighth grade science fair project.

And lest you think that Brown's work just took the form of these useless gravitators and never worked their way into functional aerospace vehicles,

we have a decent amount of evidence that Northrop Grumman's B-2 stealth bomber actually uses Townsend Brown's principles.

It doesn't use the Bidefield-Brown effect.

Remember that demo Brown did for Teller that blew him away?

Well, it convinced a prominent lawyer and aerospace financier named Floyd Odlem to invest $4,000 in Brown's Santa Monica-based company Guidance Technologies.

When Odlem made his investment in Brown in the 60s, he was a majority owner of Northrop before its merger with Grumman.

Townsend Brown shuts down Guidance Technologies with no explanation.

Basically, Townsend Brown's work.

After decades of classified work on the B-2 stealth bomber, and maybe some investigation into Townsend Brown's work, Northrop's premier stealth vehicle was revealed to use an electrostatic effect in its wings, producing a Byfield-Brown effect.

And the B-2 was built by the merged Northrop Grumman, whose major investor Floyd Odlem was the same guy that invested in Townsend Brown's company Guidance Technologies in the 60s.

So maybe Brown's Guidance Technologies didn't fail at all.

Gunston not only portrayed the B-2 anti-gravity drive story as fact, but went on to reveal that he had been well acquainted with the rudiments of T.T. Brown's theories for years,

So the verdict is still out, but I think there's a lot of evidence that at least some of Townsend Brown's work made it into the B-2.

And then you ask yourself the question, if there was covert IP transfer into the B-2 bomber, what other aerospace things did Brown's work make it into?

So we know MIT students as recent as 2018 are investigating Townsend Brown's work.

Again, both claiming that the B-2 stealth bomber implemented aspects of Townsend Brown's work.

And if that doesn't fully vindicate Brown's aerospace legacy, here's an official 2004 NASA Marshall Space Flight Center patent under a senior engineer named John Campbell for a barrel-shaped asymmetrical capacitor.

Naturally, the associated white paper mentions Townsend Brown a lot, but mainly in the context of updates in ionic propulsion.

It's a bit more skeptical of the ability for the B-field Brown effect to work in a vacuum.

Again, I'll reiterate that I'm open to the possibility that Brown's work simply amounted to very exotic ionic wind propulsion implemented in black aerospace.

You see, in 2003, right before they filed their Townsend Brown-related patents, NASA announced through an article in The Guardian that it would be ending its breakthrough physics and gravity manipulation efforts.

The article is basically a dedication to Townsend Brown, whose quote-unquote, name may be forgotten, but his dream lives on.

But they don't explicitly cite any reasons for ceasing their investigation into Brown's work.

Truths that probably involved Townsend Brown's work.

You know, they act as smoke screens for anyone who's trying to do serious investigation on people like Brown because of the taint that comes with them.

What does Townsend Brown and the B2 stealth bomber have anything to do with Bob Lazar?

So maybe the Aurora also used flight principles inspired by Townsend Brown.

I just think it uses exotic propulsion technology that may have its roots in Townsend Brown.

Lear Corporation's headquarters were across the street from Townsend Brown's guidance technologies,

and Brown's daughter, Linda, recalls the two inventors getting lunch practically every day.

and witnessing Townsend Brown's gravitator experiments.

And actually, when John Lear saw this footage of his father with Townsend Brown, he was reportedly very emotional.

Lear Sr. works with Townsend Brown at guidance technologies on antigravity.

The novel propulsion physics of Townsend Brown.

Bonson's chief theoretical physicist was Bryce DeWitt and his chief experimentalist was Townsend Brown.

Using an insulator with a high K-factor in the Byfield-Brown experiment is essential for the level of thrust that you can achieve.

Was Lewis Witten just referring to one of Brown's insulator materials?

Appearing on the scene to investigate is none other than Townsend Brown.

Townsend Brown, who was living in California at the time, was pressed into service, flown into England, and then from England, flown into Germany.

Brown was called in by William Stevenson, the MI6's top spy and the inspiration for James Bond.

The TICOM mission, which Brown was associated with, took place in East Germany.

Brown was captured by the Nazis and made a prisoner of war, just to get rescued shortly thereafter by the Americans.

We have no idea what Brown found or retrieved in Germany, and we're not sure just how far east he made it.

Mieta is the mysterious high-voltage physicist that Townsend-Brown's task force reportedly helped capture for the Allied forces.

Brown was likely part of this operation because Mieta's work bore an uncanny resemblance to his own.

So maybe it was like there was some convergence, and Brown was working on this stuff in the U.S.,

That Brown was kind of a rogue operative who, you know, went over here and found this piece,

By most accounts, Mita, one of the key aerospace engineers on the project, and the guy that Townsend Brown captured,

And in 1956, he, along with Jacques Cornelion, convinced none other than Townsend Brown to come to France to prove that his experiments worked in a vacuum.

And when Brown flew back to America from Paris, who picked him up from the airport? Robert Saarbacher.

Remember Agnew Bonson, Brown's patron in the 50s?

Film that Townsend Brown may have been reviewing at Lookout Mountain Laboratory.

serendipitously lookout mountain laboratory in townsend brown's old house is just a few blocks

away from my house in laurel canyon so paul and i decided to pay brown's old stomping grounds a visit

townsend brown also spent the end of his life in catalina which might be the world's biggest

to use his yacht for a deep sea scientific expedition and brown was serving on the yacht as a radar and

on the townsend brown forums a thread from 2006 describes the caroline group as a consortium morgan

a couple of times for espionage work morgan is the code name for brown's long-time colleague and linda

another long-time brown colleague that shatzkin codenames o'reilly says something very telling he

says that a couple of other brown inventions were handed over to other entities and this consortium

with the caroline group but townsend brown wasn't just a pawn to some shadowy consortium or three-letter

original ufo crash retrieval program in 1957 brown took part in the international geophysical year

points out brown used this as an opportunity to gather some important national security intel that gave

as they over flew soviet russia when brown returned from the international geophysical year he created

could have been perfected do you think that brown was crowdsourcing intelligence for his work like

the real question is what was brown's involvement with it if any after all brown actually told his

were greatly inflated brown was officially discharged from the navy in 1942 a few months before the

historian paul la violette believes a clue might be found in a 1942 fbi file on brown the file shows

brown living in laurel canyon on wonderland boulevard this possibly points to shatzkin being right that he

questions why would the fbi even have a file on brown in the first place especially right after the

philadelphia experiment supposedly took place well the file even says that townsend brown knew more

about radar detection than any individual in the u.s navy they also say that prior to brown's move to la

experiment was rumored to take place the file also repeats that brown both cheated on his wife

on brown according to the 1971 australian intelligence document u.s air force chief of staff

smithsonian's archives in the 80s but had never noticed that townsend brown was mentioned in it

labs where townsend brown worked and in his winter haven proposal brown brings up barium

materials when used as the insulator they would massively increase the thrust of brown's gravitators

like the four figures barium is the heaviest stable alkaline earth in fact brown's later work in the

at blue book also expresses intense interest in the samples but all townsend brown had to do was show up at

basically declaring eminent domain what exact credentials did townsend brown have to flash to

linda brown often describes her father as being part of a deeper draft or a much more authoritative

same dimension well that recalls a conversation between morgan and towns and brown where morgan's

able to do this right and morgan says i want to be on that list right towns and brown says i think

find any reference to it townsend brown's scientific paper which we do have access to is called the

perhaps one of the more bizarre aspects of townsend brown's work is his lifelong obsession with a

at first i thought this was the part of brown's work that you could resoundingly write off it seemed

physicist this person is a secret fan of towns and brown's and is very interested in sidereal radiation

but chose to remain anonymous because of brown's stigma and i'm not talking about avi loeb somebody

the day and throughout the year the other thing that brown's structure of space tries to do is revive

that's why townsend brown's winter haven proposal doesn't only involve exotic propulsion it involves

brown seems to be describing in the structure of space is there is something that may have been

really high energy output right that's super interesting finally the weirdest component of brown's work

brown's work is ferris williams 5d dynamic theory ferris was a colleague of okie shannon former manager

their paper stated that dr james woodward's work on anti-gravity which is built on townsend brown's

the byfield brown effect in his frontiers of propulsion science he concedes that an air force

derived to explain the byfield brown effect which again begs the question why would the air force

continue to be motivated to derive a theoretical framework for the byfield brown effect if it doesn't

revolutionary theory around brown's work one that doesn't involve any unknowable trans-temporal fifth

tightly than traditional hertzian waves explaining the byfield brown effect this may explain a lot of the anomalous

effects that townsend brown and other high voltage physicists have gotten over the years according

brown was describing in his lost 1929 paper the minor quantum it's impossible to find it it is and you can't

and not decay like any of the other four forces in physics would was townsend brown at all connected with

father and atherton at that time remember seeing a check from the townsend brown foundation to stanford

brown's work should not be open source in fact at times i've been encouraged by anonymous people on

brown's work might lead to and if speculating on some hidden black aviation projects from 30 to 40 years

on those programs as evidence for the usefulness of brown's work the legacy ufo program needs to come

actually arguing against my own interests here but for those of society and shining a light on brown's

i've made in this whole townsend brown saga tyler from diana's book is a nasa mission controller named

who taylor was in 2014 townsend brown's daughter linda wrote a review of taylor's book she writes an

daughter and all of us so what is tim taylor's connection with townsend brown well the son of

an elite group called the nassau group headed up by t townsend brown also insinuated they had time

travel technology so what is tim taylor's connection with townsend brown was brown the chief

architect of a secret parallel space program townsend brown had a ufo experience in catalina

we need to be able to manipulate space time itself as townsend brown conceived i think our whole space

and brown stuff and maybe the real space program is is that and if you even look at like carl sagan's

space super high energy tank and maybe that's that's the real interesting space program brown's work

propulsion or otherwise but many of these exotic propulsion mechanisms are derived from brown's

utopian dreams of the future townsend brown brings us back to that future speaking of back to the future

was hollywood dropping some breadcrumbs and naming the wacky scientist in the movie doc brown you're the only one that's noticed that uh so i congratulate you

and the movie takes place in 1985 the year of townsend brown's death townsend brown was an unrefined

anyone who can prove the byfield brown effect under two conditions number one is the person has to

the byfield brown effect as long as i feel like they are a good faith actor that would kind of blow

courses and has completely armchair takes on physics i'm not sure whether brown's experiments made their

embargo our desperately declining multi-polar world needs it and the ghost of townsend brown deserves it

do you think that townsend brown and morgan know how to time travel

yeah you do yeah i do and what do you think townsend brown's goal and time travel is um maybe the end

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