But perhaps the most fascinating clue to where the real vital off the books physics went is dropped by Eric Weinstein in a conversation he has with Joe Rogan about the Chapel Hill Conference.
If you are not one of the tens of millions of people who've listened to his podcast with Joe Rogan, Bob Lazar claimed he worked at a secret compartmentalized facility at Area 51 called S-4 in the Nevada desert, reverse engineering a flying saucer that looked like this.