Because of the extremely sensitive nature of this NSA program and its ties to black programs,
I've read your incredible book, Above Black.
At that time, there was a big, huge, black building, glass building.
It's called the, I think they called it the black box even.
And of course, when you're at the official use only and, and unclassified aspects of things, there's not much of a layer, but when you get to the secret and the top secret and then black, and then in our case, and in the case of this, the gray project.
And especially when you get up to the black and gray project, because when you have a gray project, um, obviously you need funding.
So you do that because you have a black project that's co-located with it.
And only a select few of the people in the black project know about the gray project so that they can do their job and administer the gray project.
But all the funding, all the, all the, um, manpower, like, you know, me going from one base to another, it's all under the auspices of the black project.
And you're paying homage to it with the black.
And you're saying that above programs that are by definition black and, you know, off the books kind of, or off the books for the public, at least you have these little cutouts that involve the alien presence, which is, that's a big claim.
So at that time I was not assigned to any black projects.
Um, so it, it, it stands to reason that he would, he would try to make me understand that this is just part of that process and you are going to be going to a black project.
It was a, a blue marked unmarked van that had a black windows.
like looking into that and i do believe the narrative that things have existed in the black
behind what's in the black that's fine but and there's an actual aspect of that in the story too
a black project that's covering a great project so it's i mean there's high likelihood that that's true
indoctrinated into the into the program into the black project that we were in and um
black project and so he took me in there it's a two-person van for security reasons there always
um and um he i asked about the the other aspect of my job the black project he said don't worry about
different aspect of the black job black project job and mine the right seat was another aspect of the
black project but then also mine was a great project and in my computer i had that thing that
some questions about the secrecy and he went into the onion stuff but he didn't say the gray black
oh he didn't talk about the great black during our during our black introduction he went into the
back the idea that the gray projects are concealed within the the black projects and so no okay
interesting yeah he he only went up to the black project because he probably got a at some point a
speech about onion the onion aspect but only to the black yeah layer so to speak because in your book
or black holes nobody knows what happens beyond the event horizon of the black hole and so yeah and
know formations like black holes time moves slower and so you you know almost theoretically yeah yeah
um the project that i worked on i mean other than um project preserve destiny the black project was a
we've been talking about this entire time sometimes you're not tagging a gray project with a black project
but you're tagging a black project with a gray fake gray thing to catch spies you know it's this
figure out so it would like serve all these purposes to actually call black stuff alien so
the name of it i say it's on amazon you can you know above black yeah search for it and and um and then
uh black and and then unclassified level that chain of command got a letter and i said i'm admitting
economist here still when they drop a story about trump taking control of black budget alien programs
exactly what sherman describes in his book a black budget cover mission deeply compartmentalized insulated
from oversight by other branches of government but above it a gray program core above black dealing with
you know i will say that out of all the presidents that have been uh read into you know black projects
right here's where things get interesting after reading dan's book above black i kept thinking
above black i did some research and it turns out this massive antenna was designed to pick up high