To me, that should be very telling to America that there's a lot more going on with this behind the scenes than we're aware.

That's why you need to, we've got a president in the White House, I think, that gets it and is sick of it and thinks America maybe is, you know, is not arrogant enough to believe that he's the end all.

And those are the kind of things I wish America could listen to and talk to, because they had...