All right, look at me. I don't want to look at you.
I know you're giving me a clue. Okay.
No, no. I'm asking you. Which one do you mean?
I just, this is the part that kind of hangs me up.
The compartmentalization here also makes verifying things for the people that do leak
are very humble when it comes to that stuff, and they don't really talk about-
They're just, like, nose down, work, do what's good for your country, very patriotic.
regardless of what borders and laws we live within, right?
So you would think there would be, like, another layer to that that has nothing to do with, like,
Like at dinner, that kind of thing?
Yeah, yeah, I spent a couple days with him, because he was-
It's more of an energy of like, oh, I got to talk about this.
Like, it conjures up something very, very, very profoundly dreadful in him, you know, and you can feel that.
And so I was talking to him about it.
And he told me, you know, I was talking to him about Aztec, the Aztec crash, which is a crash that happened in 48, in March 48, so nine months after Roswell,
There were 16 bodies, apparently, that were pulled from that wreckage.
There's a great video that UAP Gerb put on a, did a real deep dive on it.
He's like, yeah.
When, so when he was in the craft, the one time he was allowed in the UFO, they were measuring
He's like, he knows about passage material, and the fact that sometimes they'll put bullshit in there
to see that if you talk about it to someone else, they'll know exactly who it came from.
Like they had put it on there.
And he goes – in his head, he's like, oh, that's what people are reporting.
So he's –
And there was some – there was like – there was a rate – this is the interesting thing,
Yeah, because of the – because he was amplifying gravity.
That's what they're talking about.
They're talking about the same thing, you know.
And the last night he got caught.
It was like 3,000 miles away or something like that.
Do you think some of that is explained by downward stream threats of people being told like,
Bob doesn't give a shit.
That's what's fun about Bob.
And then you were here, and on this date you were here.
You know?
Yeah.
That'd be very cool to go through that.
And just for that, just to not deal with social media is a big enough reason not to come out.
Just to be like, I don't want that.
I don't want to have a Twitter profile now.
And that's the thing, though, when you're making, when you're coming out with something that big, forget just the extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Every part of your life that's publicly available is going to be picked apart.
And there's, I understand that.
And that sucks.
I can't imagine being in that position.
That really does suck.
But, like, it's relevant.
You know what I mean?
Like, who you are, where you're from, what your motives could be.
And if you don't come out.
It's all relevant.
Nobody knows that you know shit.
Right?
So they're never going to be like, you got to talk.
They'll just leave you alone.
That's right.
But the second you say, I might know something, now you're an asshole for not playing ball.
Yeah.
Now you might go to jail if you say something.
Now you're in this weird position.
Yeah.
Right?
And, you know, we know people like that who, you know, they'll come out and they'll say a little bit of something.
But now you're playing ball.
Now we know you know.
And now it's like everybody's judging you.
Clearly, all those people didn't.
Yeah.
And of the people that have, there's been no one to come out since Grush that I think has anywhere near the level of, like, bullshit meter, you know, smell test credibility that he does.
So, like, awesome guy, works his ass off, genuinely cares, and really is amazing at getting people to open up.
And you see that in his work.
I would assume—I would hope to think that if we did reach, you know, zero point on AI or whatever or the, you know, the peak of creating artificial intelligence that we would hear about it instantly, I would think.
Like, that would just change everything.
But that's a general skepticism that I hold for anyone in counterintelligence, not specifically to Lou.
I've appreciated your support from afar and everything.