like, you know, he goes, John would talk about this stuff all the time, and I never believed
And he was referring to John Lear, who's a well-known conspiracy theorist, but also a pilot
had with John Lear was one that was friendly, but he didn't buy into any of the stuff John
Like, John would, you know, Bob would say, oh, John thought people lived in the sun.
And so he started bringing his friends up, like John Lear, I think Gene Huff, I think all these guys, started bringing them up to a place which is no longer accessible, but a place that overlooked S4 back then.