working and uh yeah that was back in the um middle 80s 1980s is that reagan um yeah i think it started
i worked um for about 15 years in the uh star wars arena and then i wanted to homeschool my children
boys tend to be and uh so i went and talked with his teachers and talked with the school and came
i uh retired and started homeschooling my kids and became a consultant and that was really the best
and one of the one of the businesses that i uh worked for was nasa so i worked for them for a couple
seven million pounds of force or something yeah you know in in physics it's relative uh which one's
all is the same it's all the same so uh that was a problem and one of the things they asked me to do
was how many uh up to the up to the time of what i was doing this there had been something like six or
couple years yeah it took a couple years to do that and i wrote it all up uh got some accommodations
for that because that they were having problem at nasa in that time because they had just uh gone
you know and uh how they accidentally lost or deleted all of the data and all the technology from
most uh incredible achievements in human history yes i would agree with that yeah getting rid of all
know whether that's a good number or not but there are there are a lot it looks like a uh a ball like the planet
research both started at the same time when i got out of graduate school i uh went to work for uh
actually it was uh army technical intelligence and that's where i started doing big computer models of
keep going that's uh that's really amazing if it's uh if it's not and the guy's just got a good
my boss found out that bob monroe didn't live that far away and uh that was in charlottesville
and uh dennis helped build equipment and uh if you go to the monroe institute and that was before there
has an office in huntsville huntsville alabama really yeah it's a it's one of those uh tech cities
that uh it's very you know if you go to huntsville you will hardly ever find somebody speaking
in the southern drawl most everybody's has come from someplace else it's a uh a lot of actually
has it been like that um well it started with uh von braun von braun when they picked up the uh
so that was where the that's where the uh the paperclip scientists were based in huntsville
went out of marshall spaceflight center that's in huntsville so uh huntsville was the first big uh
and scientists and engineers um wow i didn't know that yeah so it's a it's one of those uh
tech centers and it's it's nice actually to to be there because it's a it's like an oasis of uh
i don't know i was going to say smart people but it's it's got a lot to uh you know it's got a lot to
it's a pretty good uh cultural uh center as well you probably noticed that mushroom gummies are
anyway so you have to be open-minded and you have to be very uh logical and rational and as things
it doesn't fit with our belief in physical you know reality let's uh let's see what's there so
that more easily perhaps than than just the average person in the street who doesn't really uh have that
people that are in the more esoteric uh mind space do tend to be science you know engineering
going out to uh at that time it was at whistlefield farms it's where bob's live bob lived and i was
do that so interesting that was the way we uh that's the way we worked and how did this all lead to your
the understanding of consciousness and how consciousness worked and i uh worked on that problem and
consciousness was fundamental you can dig up a quote of einstein writing to to uh bomb who was a kind of a student co-worker with him
consciousness exists everything else is just is just logic and it's a it's science it also tells you uh you
you know it informs uh what makes changes in metaphysics it answers all the paradoxes in metaphysics
yeah uh increasing entropy over time yeah so all systems uh naturally increase their entropy with time
just confused because i've heard other people explain this uh this analogy to me in this way yeah well yes if
very it's very uh high entropy and all the soldiers are marching in line and they all
insignificant uh what's significant about soldiers is that they go out and kill other soldiers and that's
not just communication but where where there is uh more significant issues and significant problems
the initial conditions over thousands of iterations of this gets to be uh tuned to give you a more stable longer
than that's why we have this thing called the uh the anthropic and anthropic cosmological principle
you've probably heard of that that uh scientists have come up with this knowledge that there's
makes it sound like uh the universe was built just for us because it's just this perfect way that would
thousand that's the process that created that uh you know those kind of processes so then what this
want to pollute it with uh with that uh so i i didn't but i've talked to lots of people who do
it's being projected onto a big uh computer monitor right that's showing you 3d people moving around
know this this uh happy uh saying about we're all one it's really true we are we're all subsets of that
and uh he said that like the feeling sort of like lingered for a while when he got back and it like
experience and that's attainable that's what the the hindus called samadhi you can go to that uh
are defined so it needs this database to uh to render and this database as time goes on what was in the
that's the the mechanism and that mechanism uh and that's learned that's something that you that
i think the first time it was crohn's disease right and uh that was in the process of killing them and
shotgun wound you got shot yeah he got shot the shotgun wound and uh that got healed now once you
had a lot of very uh dramatic experiences and he doesn't really understand exactly he's been through
a yeah i interacted with him and and his sons and and uh i listened to his daughter sing a song
stuck by something and uh he explained putting his hand on the dog and then this fresh wound just
thinks it's he thinks it's um he thinks there's this lady this divine woman who is uh i forget what
he calls her but he thinks this is all biblical like this is uh this is a divine gift that he's been given
and uh this woman that is communicating with him uh is is trying to tell him about some date when jesus is
he can summon no i didn't get to uh i didn't get to see the videos of them they're all over his instagram
heard about that and i don't doubt it what do you think what do you make of that what do you uh think
logical necessity not because i think you know that uh you know having multiple lifetimes reincarnation
you were just at this psychic games thing and uh there's a woman i saw a video of that um i don't
it works fine can you do it i i actually uh spent about two weeks working on it and i was getting close
squishy science well which is like uh you know and it kind of like exposes how the scientific method
in the video was a uh it was a lady in scandinavia and she was one of the people that very quickly
did learn to see without her eyes in this course and i took her outside uh and walked her around
getting used to technology and and being um uh brought up in this technological world we live in
the the the uh the kids who had autism their normal processing wasn't available that was
eyes people couldn't see without eyes as right as long as they uh you know but once they re once they could
give you the output that you that you want so these are you know these are tools uh everybody has these
place there are some people who think that uh that trauma is one of the common things that help people
i think he's uh there's people like um jeffrey kripal who have studied this extensively that you know
the people that are that are uh also into you know spiritual things you know teachers and people
uh chris blood so said he was desperate he had this crones that was killing them and he yeah he basically
existence yes but it's not linear so in the beginning uh you know when we were uh cave people
traveling in small tribes kind of things uh the world was a very tough and harsh place and there
500 years and look at what was what was uh humanity like 500 years ago and you will realize it was very
rough it was a lot of violence a lot of uh dysfunction going on there were the people in charge could
starving children with pot bellies uh you know wherever they occur and destruction and death and bodies and
uh people that we don't really care about it's making it less easy to get away with evil yeah so
and and uh forced us into echo chambers and every technology has its its upside and its downside
super low entropy and achieve this pinnacle of uh consciousness and then uh maybe we were wiped out or
reset by some sort of a cosmic cataclysm or something like this no i don't think so i think that uh we were
when the larger conscious system uh made this this uh this virtual reality for us to play in
uh history of the israelites and so on and you will find that there was a angry and jealous god
by getting people like like chris blood so and and like uh you know crop circles and lots of people
uh radiation poisoning and radiation burns and stuff from these things too which is wild yeah well those
right now if you compare uh us living in the western world people living in silicon valley driving
these autonomous vehicles uh using phones to communicate um you know implanting brain chips
so i can tell you i've had similar experiences to that too i've had my uh i've had my sessions with
stream and i dealt with that i dealt with it uh without a lot of fear and it turned out okay but
know that's just not a you know not a good thing but a bad thing it's uh something i'll watch out for
this happened hmm how old were you when this uh alien abduction happened uh i wouldn't really call it an
this is a interesting this is an interesting uh trip this is an incident in reality what were you doing
different weren't human the beans that i saw the beans that did that weren't human were they uh hominid
they weren't humans did they communicate was there any communication uh yes there was some communication
going to check your fear level that's interesting because you know uh speaking about john mack
the fear level of the individual and and uh yeah i got a i got kind of a message after that it happened a
it's it's uh you don't you don't need that so i did i cut that off you know like i say on the web
who were very religious would not like my big toe very much that they would uh you know i'd find them
little bit you know a little bit of uh processing and so on we're all pieces of it we're all pieces
yeah what happens when we die uh that's an easy question i know that's the hard question but that's
you die well i know from from uh several approaches one um it's easy to do a mind-to-mind connection
smell and taste and it's just a mind-to-mind connection yeah what was it uh spock used to do
sure yeah there is uh several places i have a website that is www.my-big-toe.com they can go there
audio course you just take it it's a it was the best of the best of uh of audio courses that i did
want to do you can get a course there to do it uh you can read my books the books are a little hard to
can go do that um if you're interested in the science you can go to the uh the youtube find a
and i've got i don't know 30 40 videos there that uh are all about relationship and connections with