working and uh yeah that was back in the um middle 80s 1980s is that reagan um yeah i think it started
i worked um for about 15 years in the uh star wars arena and then i wanted to homeschool my children
um and then how did you get from doing this stuff to getting involved with parapsychology and the monroe
the work that dennis and i did there so anyway um after the seven to eight years i left town
has it been like that um well it started with uh von braun von braun when they picked up the uh
and scientists and engineers um wow i didn't know that yeah so it's a it's one of those uh
um would be into this stuff which seems like woo-woo to the to the normal everyday person who's not kind
um saying that i know that consciousness has to be at the root and has to be fundamental but
all zeros yeah you could say yeah we can say that um we're kind of splitting hairs there but no i'm just i'm
entropy that much now you've created um a lower entropy because of the the meaning the significance
so the system says i need to make another virtual reality where um there's more meaningful interaction
space but it's um if you don't actually own it you know if you're not doing it on your own then the
iya whiteley yesterday and she explained how um when one of the astronauts went up into
um i forget what happened to his dog he's always bit by something and it was bleeding profusely or was
thinks it's he thinks it's um he thinks there's this lady this divine woman who is uh i forget what
um i haven't been able to come up with any conventional explanation for what they are i
mean they're real i saw them we filmed them and um he apparently he can do this everywhere he goes
um and he's done it on camera many places many times they're all over his instagram yeah i have
people up and see bigger pictures the system does that it does that in many ways um a lot of it is
growing in the next couple of decades so it's kind of speeding that process up and it it picked um
you were just at this psychic games thing and uh there's a woman i saw a video of that um i don't
it real of course it's real and then one of the students there was a lady um from scandinavia this is
getting used to technology and and being um uh brought up in this technological world we live in
um tuned extra sensory thing that's inside of them that that we don't have and um it makes me wonder
become more open to this and more intuitive and have this sort of sense um when you're talking about
i think he's uh there's people like um jeffrey kripal who have studied this extensively that you know
um have more of this a stronger connection to this this monolithic consciousness or whatever it is yeah
becoming more open we're becoming more loving um more one um do you think this evolution has been on a
non-stop linear path since since the first um the first consciousness first conscious being came into
that decision making probably do you think it's possible that far in the past um we evolved to be
you know once or maybe even escaped earth yeah no i don't think that's the case i think that um
if you go to a place like um like the side games you'll find that you know if you if you ask the
kinds of things can happen you know people um you know they found out when they started to explore like
after s-a-r-n-o dr sarno um i don't remember his first name he's dead now but he has a lot of people
um going back to this ufo stuff do you think it's possible that there is a there could be another
these autonomous vehicles uh using phones to communicate um you know implanting brain chips
but what do you make of these um corroborated experiences and sightings of these like flying
saucers or if you want um the stuff that the harvard psychiatrist john mack talked about with these
talking about um they're from the future and they look like um they look like children with like
was this that was the story that was given to me and i was like teleported there if you will um
um late 20s early 30s for me wow that that happened but see i had been working already for some years
they i talked with them they talked with me um but the feeling that i got during that communication
you weren't quite sure that there that there was another what do you call it um another agenda there
feelings they described were um the way they interpreted those feelings was that like technology
um they believe that christians believe god is all-knowing all-omnipotent which means god knows
you die well i know from from uh several approaches one um it's easy to do a mind-to-mind connection
have to be when it's born it can be mostly it is before once the once the um the the baby has
story and the way you live your life and the way you look at the world um i got many many stories i bet
um but we just did three hours so thank you for your time i'm very grateful for you coming here and
doing this is there um a place where people can go to get in touch with you or learn more about your work
can go do that um if you're interested in the science you can go to the uh the youtube find a
the physics involved or the science of it if that's something that interests you go there um
it in a lot of videos that i did um with a couple of ladies where the soft side was their main interest