were kids with movies like close encounters and et weren't far off from the truth they're they're
there has in fact been a massive cover-up of non-human intelligent life and the government does take
it very serious and does know a lot more than the public does so in those those conversations um
that originally were research for for a scripted project like i said um uh i started to realize that
um these people that i had formerly would be that i formed relationships with would be great
uh interview subjects for that documentary that i always wish existed and then i kind of
shifted my focus to no longer doing research for a scripted project and i was like okay i'm
i'm gonna make the definitive documentary on this topic that i always wish existed and this will be
that thing that i direct to and so um it's sort of like the the origin and then um
from there i started socializing uh with these intelligence officials i had met and their
colleagues that i wanted to i wanted to make a film that would bring the truth out about what is
known that can legally be shared all these people are privy to classified information but you know
right place at the right place at the right time and that while they were having that thought
process i was socializing that i wanted to make a documentary that would essentially do that right
saying uh you know who's who in the zoo you know like all the all the different players and all this and
um and then making it um doing interviews uh over the course of three years uh yeah in the beginning when
register for everybody so so jay was there from the jump and he was sort of leading you around
kind of like holding your hand showing you the lay of the land where to go what what tree what
you know different than than it is and so they really helped keep me keep me on the right path
um they i i shared with them people i was considering interviewing sometimes they would say hey you
going to get to the moon here's why it's important here's why it's important we win this race he he
articulated it in a way that the same kind of way you would articulate the importance of this topic
of like super high level top top tier backstop agreement between all these nation states like
the united states china and russia about disclosure like do you think there's any like super deep
yeah you know i but i just i'm skeptical that trump has any power to do that i'm skeptical that the
president any any politicians in the united states have that kind of power i think there's a i think
pilots up with gorilla masks in the cockpits so in the case they got into visual distance with a
commercial aircraft they'd wear their gorilla mask wow so if someone they tried to go to the bar later
no one from any of the defense contractors would would uh would participate did you talk sorry i did i
talked to a couple people that used to work for some of the key players on the defense contracting
with the cia and these giant private contractors yeah yeah and they know the contractors know that
these people have top secret access to shit and they're going to bring all that with them which is
the energy like if we can cut if we have this ability to have free clean energy around the world and
yeah i mean you don't right now generally speaking my understanding is that you you essentially need
to be a nation state to have the means to build nuclear weapons if the if this technology and the
scientist who's been involved in a lot of highly classified programs dealing with uap and other
and all sorts of other things yeah and you know we've had a lot of conversations like the one we're
how to deal with it um now look that might just not be in the cards that might not be possible the dynamics
of that you know like where where does that move to next the the thing is when there is this gap in
knowledge people are just going to fill it with whatever they're going to fill it with whatever they
want to believe they're going to fill it with aliens extraterrestrials uh time traveling humans
uh angels and demons religious stuff and again that stuff it's like there's factions it seems like
in the intelligence and military communities that all have different views on this stuff like there's
people that are in the military and in intelligence and in higher levels of government who think that
it's like angel jd vance said that yeah he thinks they're angels and demons no people are applying
their their belief systems to it which is not surprising you know and that's what happens when they
don't give when the when the people in charge don't give a definitive analysis yeah they just sort
of like here's this crazy do with it what you will that's why i really do think we need the equivalent
of kennedy's space race speech that he gave at rice university like just that that level set of we have
retrieved craft actual aircraft like technology not spiritual stuff technology of non-human origin and so
essentially you know on on uh unexplored um yeah i mean antarctica is just like a big mystery box
you know hide great place to hide and you could an entire species could have you know could could be
government that crafts of non-human origin have indeed crashed or been caused to crash and we have
recovered them it's tangible technology and in some cases there's been non-human beings in these crafts
these things are out there how come no one's ever gotten a good video um with their iphone everyone's
got a 4k camera in their pocket yeah everyone has a 4k camera in their pocket but it's the same reason
when they say that despite the navy having learned a lot they are still um boxed out by the legacy program
and they are still like you know on their own parallel path to to figure this all out i think
officials asked for a demonstration of that as recent as a couple weeks ago and apparently
saw with their own eyes uap um i was told this in confidence uh by a couple people within the last
shake those trees and in that process apparently um some of them were given a demonstration on how
uap can be lured on how to lure them in yeah and apparently saw with their own eyes which was a game
you could put a nuclear submarine in a certain area and nearby it you could put um another vessel with a
with a nuclear weapon on it and that footprint will attract them
carrera give that testimony he this guy realized he goes holy i was there i was a part of that team that
was doing that i was one of the guys that he saw and then i guess his story was like that like
lose his clearance his security clearance and doesn't want to lose his ability to provide for
his family with someone like that speaking up and sharing with you lawfully can i i i put i put a lot
they they would have so much leverage there is no way they would not be a more valuable company
only and they had actually cracked this technology in 04 and it was theirs it wouldn't they wouldn't it
and the base he was assigned to was the old um space command base at that time yeah and then uh he
you know like any reasonable intelligent person would do he kind of just went on a mission to like
try to piece together his past and he started finding this massive cover-up um
um in those records was um was um his excused absences from school for weeks at a time he
doesn't remember any of it the school when he contacted school the the school's records were missing
um there's all these other things about his past that as he started to look into it became clear he was
a part of something as a kid after this uap event um and then it was all covered up and something
caused him to forget all this then the brain surgery brought all these memories back um and then just
to skip to sort of like the end of the story um when he started socializing this to some of his high
level intelligence official friends um he found his life in jeopardy and there were a couple attempts
uh uh uh to end his life and um fortunately that stopped and uh now he's you know he's around to tell a story but
security guards and the base commander went out and saw these things in the woods around the base and
some of them got very close to them um one of them one of these guards ended up having a lot of
technologically advanced and like yeah even alien abductions like did any of the people that you talk to
go that far to talk about like talk about the actual beings people people did people i chose to
the ideas you had going into watching the movie are the same after watching the movie those kind of
they were separated and air force office of special investigation and cia were there and
like it's like dramatic um one guy when he's telling the story actually i i he i noticed his like knee was
like like shaking and like like you know when you're thinking about something really dramatic and it's just like
um yeah it really made an impact on me uh i just felt for this film you know it it was a bridge too
far and we could get to that point next you know i think i i was really trying to make a movie that was
that was a great memory i remember he he was telling us like he's just like you know he was the
coolest version of himself we uh we he was telling us stories about jurassic park and jaws and that's
he was ahead of his time for sure there was a story was ahead of his time there was a story speaking of
the abyss there was a story that you that you left out i heard about some guy recovering a vehicle out of the
so it's like it's like fucking hell right and yeah not only that but like the pressure is different that
the the there's volcanoes asteroids comets all kinds of shit you can't predict in the atmosphere
think about the president of the united states doesn't have like free time you know like yeah you're
choosing very specifically to say that you often think about this that's bonk and then there's this
stepping the microphone and telling the world the base facts and he wanted this group of people to
assess what the repercussions would be what the impact would be on society and rank it from a one to ten
scale um each vertical like the impact on religion the impact on the economy the impact on just a list
of things right and they all went in he said they all went into it thinking this was going to be a
good thing and then when they started to like honestly evaluate it and like run the numbers they
decided that it was not a good idea and that there was more more than good than pros relative to the
story is the fact that it was like just after 9 11 so the context also was like the world was already
dealing with you know a big curveball and chaos and right you know the global war on terror started
and you know the timing of it also was a factor but hal goes on the record on camera saying he
participated in this and this was an actual process that happened in our lifetime which is wild you know
to think that like you think back to the the you know bush choose presidency and you thought you
knew what was going on in the world and this was happening in a room secretly in dc that's crazy
um and then when asked about it uh um i found a clip of bush asked about it bush too being asked
every every conversation you have about it helps normalize it and make people realize what's going on