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story i would say so you know i'm 46 and my childhood's the 80s and early 90s and grew up

you know jay was was he one of the first people you talked to yeah yeah so jay was um in the process

of retiring from government when i met him um at the at the time he was the director of the u.s

of people who watch the movie and and they they say to me they're like i had no idea those hearings

even happened right you know people people are just so busy and everyone's got their nine to five and

the committee staff was essentially told to help make sure that this doc is the definitive doc and is

it that elements of the intelligence committee not the intelligence committee of the intelligence

community um would make up a story like that to try to have it end up as you said received by the

um have this it's the same backstory you know they they did they did experience that but it was staged for

them because um at the time there was a there was a in those in those situations there was either a

announced recently that he's he's gonna meet with she four times over the next 12 months something

that's never happened you know um maybe maybe it's a coincidence that that that those meetings are

on the other side of that line because what what's revealed in my film is shocking you know people

senior telling officials talking about recoveries of crafts of non-human origin and bodies of not you

simply understand that it's a real situation that it's a valid area of inquiry and um yeah this the

stigma you know and the stigma led to you know jay stratton talks in the film about how uh when you try to

no one from any of the defense contractors would would uh would participate did you talk sorry i did i

talked to a couple people that used to work for some of the key players on the defense contracting

side they would not go on camera but they helped inform me of the the lay of the land gave me give me

insight people who were i mean those those meetings were interesting they'd be in person and be told to leave

my cell phone at home and yeah really yeah no way with the defense contractors yeah yeah no way of uh

cell phones can be tracked did you talk to any of the cia science and technology folks no did you try to

i didn't because um a number of the people in my film made it clear to me that uh those folks you know

know slam the door on even them when they were inside of government you know so um

at cia who are in charge of science and technology or other levels of cia spookiness they all end up in

the private sector like one of the most recent directors of science and technology for like

this technology exists and that it has been cracked yes it could as you said solve the energy crisis in

theory it could revolutionize the way we live but the people who have been you know gatekeeping this

don't give when the when the people in charge don't give a definitive analysis yeah they just sort

of like here's this crazy do with it what you will that's why i really do think we need the equivalent

long time ago broke off the human family tree um you know there's so much of our our planet that we

haven't explored probably you know yeah we've explored more of the surface of mars than we have

that but um i have heard about um i have heard that there are people who have the ability to

um within the department of defense or or the cia and you retire you're collecting your pension as a

government worker um the way the the what a lot of them do after they retire from government work they

and play a role in disclosure and he shared what he could and it was pretty significant actually um

energy in a localized area and create these little crafts that flew within you know bright bubbles of

of energy wouldn't we have won it use it to win world war ii right what about the tic tac stuff

has any credibility that would say that was man-made really yeah we we we

a number of the people involved in first off jay stratton ran the investigation of the tic tac for

the government like he actually wrote the actual the actual official report on it he's the one who

actually went and investigated it and um completely came to the conclusion that it was not man-made like

tried to you know assign it to some you know hidden program of ours and hoped that would be the case

you know wanted to be able to explain it right and and couldn't and that's the guy who would have had

the job of knowing so prior to investigating uap and non-human intelligent line for the government

he was the head of air and space warfare for the defense intelligence agency his literal job was to

know what all of our black programs not our classified programs our black programs our unacknowledged

special access programs yes what they were building right what was on their road map for 20 30 years out

government overseers that knew they had it if if there was no government overseers and they were the

only and they had actually cracked this technology in 04 and it was theirs it wouldn't they wouldn't it

tech technology nobody knows about it except us and we have all these adversarial nations around us as

well do we want to tell them publicly that we do have this or do we want to put out this narrative

and not be at least in the top 10 market cap by the way i own lockheed martin stock it'd be amazing

intelligence official uh mostly focused on counter-terrorism uh had a really high level career

and um he ended up on a mission in the middle east and came back and he had an illness and long very

u.s air force as a child which he had absolutely no memory of imagine seeing that you're like is this

like a made-up document what is this date he was in yeah can you say it or no i probably shouldn't i

there's there's footage uh of him talking about it where he said at first i thought these kids must

be out of their mind or it's a big elaborate lie they all got together instead they're gonna make

that really truly happened and and is well documented and maybe you know most likely the us the elements

of the us government that have been covering this up the folks involved in legacy program you know likely

one of the wild things i learned was that as people involved in investigating this

what they're saying in this scene and it was just something about these people sharing their own

personal experience that happened in their own home that becomes a bridge too far for people yeah

a producer i've i've um i've built from the ground up a bunch of movies and tv shows you know including

ready player one i developed that from the very beginning when it was you know we just had the

within a couple blocks of each other which is kind of weird that's why yeah it's wild yeah um but no

no spielberg's had a huge influence on me and you know you ever talk to him about this whole

on their social media scrolls like movies or those is like you know in rare air in that like you get

someone's focus for like an hour and a half to two hours that's what they're focused on you know and it

makes an emotional impact on them yeah they learn something from it they take something away from

it it makes them think about things they hadn't thought about um yeah it's uh it's a powerful it's

a powerful force of movie i think and so especially when you like really have to invest in it you know

like when you had to get in the car drive there go sit down you know buy your popcorn buy your soda

sit down put your phone away make sure your phone's on silent you know like the fact that we don't do that

anymore it's kind of sad because that's like you're you're so locked in when you're when you're there

and you're you're that invested in it you've committed that much time to doing it and now it's

just like oh we watch half of them on our phone half of them on our laptop at night we split it into

multiple days because we don't have time yeah and um man i don't know where that goes but yeah no it's

like it's days i do too i do too the um but making that movie making ready player one um i gotta say you

high level intelligence officials who really kind of like helped me understand the lay of the land

and how serious it is and how real it is and right you know my understanding is he he also had uh

yeah but the wild thing about that is like put yourself in his shoes he's the president united

states he's giving a speech at the u.n he can say anything he wants right and he chooses to say that

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