it's a wild time to be alive you know that is uh that's why i went with that title um you know
disclosure is not going to be a singular moment it's going to be this process that unfolds over
up with right close encounters et x files the one common idea is that two common ideas are yes there's
watching steven spielberg direct and in my opinion is the greatest filmmaker that's ever lived and
realized uh how real the situation actually is and and these ideas that were put in our heads when we
colleagues that i wanted to i wanted to make a film that would bring the truth out about what is
is in that same moment um senior leadership on the senate intelligence committee and the senate
and so something really wild happened which is basically there was this moment in time where
intelligent life right um his story is pretty amazing he's really the central figure in uh the
the c be a senior staff member for a decade and and the way they handle the the staff work is they
the committee staff was essentially told to help make sure that this doc is the definitive doc and is
you know different than than it is and so they really helped keep me keep me on the right path
committee that hey you know people like rubio and gillibran and rounds have decided this is the best
brand and forget the code like daylight computer which is gorgeous so if you've got a product a dream and
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just the the whole industry that is there underneath the surface whose entire purpose is to throw people
oh this is a great opportunity to just convince this guy it's aliens he's going to go tell everyone
a mental institution and dying and like i was like after that i was like whoa okay you know this is a
you know you got to realize the role that that storyline plays in a bigger picture right why is
russians as real right right because the answer is because there is in fact a high-stakes secret
situation is real doesn't mean the bigger picture isn't you know there's actually i've been told
this public spectacle like like the paul thing um so look i think the reality of it is uh everyone i
relationships is that they are receiving a lot of pushback from the folks who have gatekept this
getting to this very real evidence that exists yeah the idea is that and correct me if i'm wrong but
is being controlled by the private sector and even like top tier generals can't even get access to it
industry trying to wrestle control of this stuff whatever it is so private industry certainly has
when you give technology to a private company like a defense contractor um to understand it which is
congressional oversight when it started in the 40s and so the tug of war really is elected officials
it's not like and the craziest part about all that is the united states is probably the only country that
for me from my interviews and in the film which is you know rubio also expresses this really clearly
which is the the concern that if we don't take this more seriously as a nation and make the
make it known that this is a valid area of inquiry that it's a real situation right and cause our
so a number of the people i interviewed made the point of you know their their opinion is that we
and so i don't i no one's ever told me that currently there is still active communication and
anyone uh that you think is credible ever told you that that there is an active no no one's ever told me
that but i think about it all the time you know i i sometimes wonder you know is there like some deep
happening while disclosure is unfolding following his presidential directive that's interesting
there's a a change happening here i think the current administration is really actively trying to
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on the other side of that line because what what's revealed in my film is shocking you know people
the other side of that line you know like if if this is what they can lawfully share what's the stuff
thinking of what the possibilities are yeah so after everything what is your high high level 30 000
foot view of what this phenomena actually is oof look i think i think it's been made pretty clear to me
is full of life and so extraterrestrials i think i think i think all things are on the table i think it
encounters and in all the media lore is that they're they're bipedal upright walking hominids
ufo stands for unidentified flying object right and he knew early on that a lot of this activity is
phenomena became the the the catch-all yeah for ufo better though yeah ufo is catchy but here's the
other reason they did it is ufo has this this cultural stigma it makes people giggle and not
yeah uap is like the suit and tie version of it yeah the suit and tie version yeah that's another wild
jim semivan um talked about how the program that that has gate kept this the legacy program that is
want to look into it no real journalists will want to go look into it if the media is not paying
but the problem is it got compounded over the years by you know multiple generations and then it got to
stigma is a couple of officials in my film talk about how this stigma that was created originally
doing now bro dude that's crazy that is crazy that is wild so this legacy program
is this a monolithic program or is there factions of this i think
is this big monolith so it's not that in that um i learned pretty quickly you know leadership of the
point they're there for they could be there for four years you know eight years whatever the cia is
situation from all my interviews uh it's not but my what i'm saying is like is the legacy program
one big program in one inside of one umbrella underneath one company or is it multiple companies
so it's all kinds of things multiple companies all working together is the best all working together
is that the cia acts as the quarterback of all this the cia acts as the operational command
so sits at the top of the the org chart and then the air force is used for operations so they have the
um is apparently a key player in the situation because they have the best experts on um technology
own own the space of anything related to nuclear technology and a lot of the uap activity is at sites
right so the classification system that they go by is like outside of the intelligence community's
literally had the door slammed in his face wow yeah and another crazy thing is a lot of these people
these people have top secret access to shit and they're going to bring all that with them which is
why they can get these insanely high salaries when they move there yeah it's a which is a form of
corruption you know it's a flawed system so and then the other question is how do these where are
is that all of these folks who have been involved in covering this up they've they've all had their
race with adversaries and so um the best course of action ultimately is to not share with the public
what i think it will do is i think it will motivate the scientific community and private industry and
it's been it's been covered up and hidden for this long this is going to disrupt the whole petroleum
industry which is like you know the whole world is propped up on oil right so we've been hiding free
currently not tapping into right and whether that is so-called free energy you know zero point energy
it it allows it to do things um that you know this is kind of what bob lazar described right in his
down the road is the the point is yes that could if we figure that out if it becomes known to mankind
yeah i mean you don't right now generally speaking my understanding is that you you essentially need
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really close with and and who i think is a great guy and one of the most brilliant people i've met
one of the most interesting people i've ever met too is hal pudoff dr hal pudoff um he's a senior
where he ultimately comes out on it as a guy who's been around this topic for decades and is in his 80s now
his outlook is that um because this technology could be so revolutionary to the way we live and because um
because there's potential for all this positive outcome he thinks that the best thing is to do
is is coming out right now you know my film makes it clear that there has in fact been a cover-up of
uh you know a weapon of mass destruction anything so like the way you the way you could use it is i
thing i'm most proud of uh with my film with the edge of disclosure is i really think it puts the nail
and not be like okay this is a hundred percent yeah a hundred percent so what's the next level
of that you know like where where does that move to next the the thing is when there is this gap in
their their belief systems to it which is not surprising you know and that's what happens when they
have our adversaries and our allies and there is this race and we need to win this race for the following
guessing game of what it is and just make it a real thing for people um the reason i think this the
the space race analogy is so great too is like think about it like there's probably a lot of people
it so i think like that that's sort of a level set with the american public is i think what we're gonna
essentially you know on on uh unexplored um yeah i mean antarctica is just like a big mystery box
is that um you know a number of people my film know as a fact from their from their work with the
and um you know the other thing is you know they say people say it in my film but uh
there there is indisputable video evidence that exists it's just classified so you know the best we
can get now is is credible people have you seen any of it i have not seen anything that's classified no
um but the best we can get now is people who have great reputations putting their credibility on the
non-human beings i have seen evidence that is classified that that is indisputable like that's
and photos can legally be shared well the best you can get is someone credible putting their rep on the
time i've been told that there is video evidence that exists at a classified level of these craft
when the bubble is turned off where you can see clear as day the craft and that's the stuff that
mm-hmm that look at the ufo topic the one that knows the most about everything is the navy and the
abyss the abyss makes you rethink this you know um it is spooky the the people i've spoken to who
los angeles and this is just like a couple hours north of us right around santa barbara and he
was it was it was a it was a missile site that's where their interceptor system is based yeah there
you know there was also the guy bob jacobs who bob jacobs is in the film he talked about they were
information that would help them in their technology race i do believe that my understanding is some
the same time i think um my understanding is that adversarial nations have done this and do this so that
really happened it's it's a pretty is this a psionic stuff incredible escalation i honestly don't know
rescuing people but what they were really doing is taking these like indigenous people children
other whistleblowers is that they were using these people who were sort of like not
communicate um using the power of their mind and i i i know that probably is like the most wacky
mind you know um but this is what i've been told by super serious people um there uh there are a bunch
a lot of there's a lot of data that shows that this this is a real area of inquiry so if you get
out of the uap topic for a second so stargate it's a real program that really existed there is so much
and they got actionable intelligence out of it uh this is something that joe rogan and i talked about
the craziest leap um to go from accepting that remote viewing is a real thing even though it's hard to
there are people who have told me that that is a thing that that there are people who have the
you know short of that level of in your face evidence the best we can really hope for is extremely
comes down to like that is that's the best we can hope for short of that that dream scenario right
right um and so you know that that is that is sort of the bar i've always held like you know i i put
first time ever is that they can use that top secret clearance that they have or that special access
uh you know a big uh pharmaceutical company uh and one of the requirements for those jobs after is that
what is true that can be lawfully disclosed and so yeah what did you make of james clapper i think
is in fact real it's not conspiracy it's not nonsense it is a real situation
squashing the stigma by acknowledging that uap activity over area 51 is real because i think for
that is real it's a valid area of inquiry and um i remember you know when i interviewed him i'm this
yeah yeah he is you know and and and yeah he's been caught up in some um you know political
get out of going and participating in this film that he knows is all about disclosure he knew in
about that yeah why why would he is that do you can you think of any reasonable explanation of why he
good you know you know and and he was like no this is important so you know um and and and and to be
in mind some of that stuff the history of these people you know because even if somebody is a
and um you know it is important to know that this guy literally lied to congress and said that the nsa
i'm gonna i'm gonna do the right thing this this time and i'm gonna share that this is a real situation
it is they know how it works they're trying to figure out more about how it works and they want to
put out some sort of a public limited hangout right and let everyone make everyone think that this is
is they want to throw people off the scent you know back to the whole paul bennewitt story but on a
you play that out and then where you land is elements of the u.s government cracked a new energy source
answer is yes yeah i'd be curious to see what they would compete with and where they would stack
with that but so if look if someone cracked this kind of technology in the 40s my point is i think
programs but i do not believe that you know this is organic human technological breakthroughs that
analogy for him you know we talked about hunt for october earlier the analogy is like remember hunt for
october alec baldwin is an analyst at the cia and his specialty is knowing everything about russia's
nuclear submarine program and and everything about the leadership of that program like he is that's his
wheelhouse right like he knows everything there is to know at a classified and on classified level
gets a satellite photo of a submarine in russia that he doesn't recognize and they wonder what it is
who do they go and ask you know they ask baldwin and he knows what it is he knows who the commander
is he knows everything about him where it's school his relationship his wife everything right
air and space technology and that is why he ended up in this investigation of uap and non-human
does and so they asked him you know please tell us this is one of ours he had been read in on all the black
it's that we have no idea what it is some other civilization i mean i have no doubt there's got to
from sea level to 80 000 feet which is what the tic tac did that's when you get into space 80 000 feet
20 years later yes it is impossible to accept the idea that they cracked that technology if they're
they they would have so much leverage there is no way they would not be a more valuable company
this conspiracy theory the only way there would be any merit to it is if there was leadership in the
that was like how change it would change the way that modern physics is known and if it's been
that it's aliens and we don't know what it is no that yeah what i'm saying is follow that that that
underwater past our our submarines right that this is like i'm with you man stuff we made you know i
9 11 is there was like what four trillion dollars that had gone missing off the books yeah i think at
what grush was tracking right yeah and and look the other thing that's worth saying is you know we just
we just honed in on u.s defense contractors and did they have that and my my thesis is no and if they
there is um non-government non-contractor money involved in this and i never really got got any
what you're explaining is something called remote viewing people are trained to do that to use their
u.s air force as a child which he had absolutely no memory of imagine seeing that you're like is this
like a made-up document what is this date he was in yeah can you say it or no i probably shouldn't i
probably should keep those details so this so this this this guy in in real life scott is um someone i was
introduced to um from someone in my film and he is writing a tell-all memoir right now and simon and
schuster is the publisher and um i don't know when it's going to be complete or when it's going to come
out but his full story is in this and i've uh got to know him and his wife and his kids and spent a lot
of time with them and it is just the most bombshell singular story i've ever heard in my life and um
bentwaters steve is that correct that sounds right raf bentwaters i think that was the name of the base
raf woodbridge yeah okay raf is it raf woodbridge
is your mic on or can we hear you talking on the mics or no
so look the air force and the cia's role in this is is well well documented people have been talking about
it for years um but the the overlap with um consciousness remote viewing yeah and this is is a
really interesting intersection you know and if you and if you accept the fact that remote viewing is real
this one yeah that's one of the most fascinating this is covered very well for those that don't
it's where i first learned about it and essentially what happened is i believe it was like 1992 or 1994
gets even wilder is there was a very um very grounded credible hardened wartime news correspondent who was
also moment of contact was fucking oh yeah moment of contact's a great movie james james is an awesome
leaving like yeah that one is like there's so much testimony witness testimony that lines up
that really truly happened and and is well documented and maybe you know most likely the us the elements
reminder like how important um civilian journalism is you know like we know about this stuff because
and because legacy media didn't bring any attention to it right and is largely controlled um people
beings that are coming here and they're it's some other uh entity not human that is really
is already so extraordinary you know and such a departure from people's everyday life that i felt
is they would say look if if russia sends a spy to dc to spy on members of our congress our
uncovered is totally digestible to the audience so i just decided to take that scene out yeah this is
the long story short yeah the normies aren't ready for you exactly yeah and i don't know what that is
the interesting things in the film is rubio and clapper we talked about two guys we talked about today
human history yeah and and so there's this it is interesting and i found it i found it really
informative when i was doing these test screenings of earlier cuts where that bridge is for people
and he called in saying saying where they were and you know as crazy as it was he's like this is where
what's wild about that is i interviewed other people who didn't know another person who didn't know this
and this is all this bolt bolt stories uh we're saying is you know before the internet before email
these guys to me is these guys were trusted enough to work on nuclear weapons bases they were placed in
know i wanted to make it for the everyman so that the average person could understand this is a real and
of a sudden like what this is real yeah you know you think about those normal people the normies as
you said um yeah that's who i was making the movie for and i think now that the average person is aware that
this is real i think we can get to those other you know content whether it's documentaries or whether it's
and i enjoyed the process of like making making an impact i do think the problem with it is like when
book to start with the the book by ernest klein um and developing movies and tv shows is is hard it's a
uh to participate and uh we would do i remember one this is actually hilarious there's just one short
he did that as a kid is what made me want to do it as a kid yeah and um yeah i made i made like a
is ernie ernie klein wrote the book amazing book he's an amazing author and um and uh i started
within a couple blocks of each other which is kind of weird that's why yeah it's wild yeah um but no
makes people realize how real this is and how serious it is and then you get like a big popcorn movie
think the combined impact of that is going to really open people's minds i mean if me watching
this documentary right what is the combined impact of my doc and his film gonna do for someone else
on their social media scrolls like movies or those is like you know in rare air in that like you get
what do you mean like is he a shooter director cinematographer no yeah no no he has he has go-to
cinematographers okay one of the some directors like to use the cameras the one he uses the most is um
redborn is the tall guy uh white hair he was in the talented mr ripley he's in a lot of movies he was
saw the game with michael douglas it's been a long time ah i have seen it i have that movie is
it's so good yeah dude i remember that i remember watching that moment and being like this is so
good movie man it really is but like going back like after like everything we know now and going back
and watching some of that is like can be yeah eye-opening yeah totally that's what i said about
special forces guy who had been in involved in a uap event and it's a long story but the the summary is
and they had like a you know i don't know what the correct word is did he tell you what ocean no i don't
before it's not like an isolated incident the ocean stuff is definitely definitely fascinating
you know it is um it really is man we might find out there's a whole civilization under the ocean
totally totally man i had this nasa guy on about a year ago kevin knuth he uh is a former nasa
from planet to planet like the atmosphere of venus is like 900 degrees fahrenheit on like a cold day
so it's like it's like fucking hell right and yeah not only that but like the pressure is different that
well it's definitely the the key to interstellar travel which is wild yeah wait but by the way
and how serious it is and how real it is and right you know my understanding is he he also had uh
insights um you know jock valet was is was one of the consultants on the movie that's the the french
scientist character and close encounters is based on jock valet and jock had worked with project blue
reagan commenting on how there's just a few people who know how close to true the et story is or how
much truth there is or some line like that um i believe he spielberg might have told this story
that's that is a famous story that i've heard as well of um apparently nixon was a big jackie
basically this is see a fucking alien real i'm gonna show you some stuff and and apparently he
what source that came from this is just something that's kind of like a story that's out there in
and distinguished guests and the former president's coy response to the alien epic he just this is a
who know that everything on that screen is absolutely true spielberg remembered wow in
humanity is a nr and amongst adversaries is a threat from another intelligent life from outside this
yeah but the wild thing about that is like put yourself in his shoes he's the president united
star wars program wow yeah pretty wild that is nuts yeah and he also talks about how reagan was
some presidents my understanding is some presidents once they learned the base facts kind of like
and then bush the other the other one who has a big role we talked about in the film is um
think tank we talked about it in my film one of the people who participated in the think tank is dr hal
story is the fact that it was like just after 9 11 so the context also was like the world was already
participated in this and this was an actual process that happened in our lifetime which is wild you know
interesting year we are we are 100 living in in the age of disclosure that is that is for sure um i do
think a lot more is going to be coming out though seriously and and and everyone should look for jay
gonna make is um i'm having some high level conversations with folks in government about