story i would say so you know i'm 46 and my childhood's the 80s and early 90s and grew up
fire in the sky yeah you know we're making we're getting a lot of attention and i remember uh my
also made us super curious about this topic and so my my whole life uh just been interested in the
ever made that film um my career ended up going into mainstream producing um i had a lot of uh
watching steven spielberg direct and in my opinion is the greatest filmmaker that's ever lived and
of my mind like i'd like to direct something after years of producing i've got my wheels spinning on what
shifted my focus to no longer doing research for a scripted project and i was like okay i'm
while i was putting together the documentary my film essentially became the plan for disclosure
that had learned the truth about the cover-up decided my film would be the vehicle for disclosing that
talk to and who not to talk to i'm automatically the wheels in my head are going whoa well it wasn't
like indisputably legitimate people in my film were introduced to me by the senate intel committee i mean
there's certain you know think about it like the people in my film are all they have the most credible
slash danny jones what changed my perspective on this whole topic indefinitely was the that movie uh mirage
from my most senior relationships inside of military government and the intelligence community that a
the american public without becoming a threat to national security and what i've been told through my
very much involved with the defense contractors but you know in my film rubio breaks down how
um everyone in my film that talked about this this this hidden program uh referred to as the
for me from my interviews and in the film which is you know rubio also expresses this really clearly
sitting on my stove i always catch myself admiring them they're metal utensil safe dishwasher safe oven
what they know um the one that always stays in my head is uh is a uh someone who's um part of the
and then ultimately uh he used very specific words that have stayed in my head he ultimately told me
word choice you know um but uh you know put yourself in my shoes man like i i had i immediately was
on the other side of that line because what what's revealed in my film is shocking you know people
thing that came out of my interviews um a number of the officials including a senior cia official uh
stigma is a couple of officials in my film talk about how this stigma that was created originally
of the stigma so big a big mission for people in my film when when i talk to them you know off camera
thousands and thousands of employees yeah and so someone reveals in my film that it's the head of
energy uh that really run the legacy program's interest in this that's my understanding of the
situation from all my interviews uh it's not but my what i'm saying is like is the legacy program
yeah not competing no so from from you know what i what what the big takeaway was from all my interviews
my cell phone at home and yeah really yeah no way with the defense contractors yeah yeah no way of uh
i didn't because um a number of the people in my film made it clear to me that uh those folks you know
and as a number of the officials in my film say um there's been a misappropriation of funds you know
energy but the energy source thing goes back to my point where i think some of these some of these
they worry about so if you look at the the technology it these crafts are it's revealed in my film how
they're warping space time in a localized area they're creating um with the scientists in my film
yeah i mean you don't right now generally speaking my understanding is that you you essentially need
these packets with me when i'm out on the go i take three capsules after my last drink or before bed
support the show by telling them we sent you one of the interview subjects my film who i who i got
um in my opinion the most interesting time to be alive because some some some amount of the truth
is is coming out right now you know my film makes it clear that there has in fact been a cover-up of
in the intelligence community that's in my film um told me that um
thing i'm most proud of uh with my film with the edge of disclosure is i really think it puts the nail
is that um you know a number of people my film know as a fact from their from their work with the
and um you know the other thing is you know they say people say it in my film but uh
line saying on camera i have seen with my own eyes yeah craft of non-human origin i have seen
line saying i have seen that with my voice it exists right and so that's that's where we are now and
people my film have seen and go on the record saying exists um it's very clear cut uh indisputable i've
mean i've you know for example that um in my film one of the one of the interview subjects
can't remember off the top of my head it was either three or six but they saw a light approaching from
things um that my interview subject shared and um a long time ago they realized folks involved in
information that would help them in their technology race i do believe that my understanding is some
the same time i think um my understanding is that adversarial nations have done this and do this so that
of my relationships in the government right now that um some of the intelligence officials
that particular event in the jungle other than what you know i've read on my once michael started sharing
sounding thing not at all your listeners are have you seen my library i i i know but there's there's
evidence of it uh that's been declassified uh dr hal putoff who's in my film who's very involved in the
feel like my personal opinion and i'm sure a lot of your listeners feel the same short of indisputable
right and so no one who spoke on camera in my film and revealed these extraordinary truths
he said these extraordinary things in my film did he get laughed out of dc no he got escalated
um number of the people in my film are are actively working uh in the private sector using their their
agencies he's never publicly revealed anything on this topic but he agreed to participate in my film
people watching my film wouldn't have his wife was in the hospital dying like in her in her final weeks
with that but so if look if someone cracked this kind of technology in the 40s my point is i think
we just honed in on u.s defense contractors and did they have that and my my thesis is no and if they
and the mom apparently said uh you know leave my kid alone he's his kid but the dad took him into
introduced to um from someone in my film and he is writing a tell-all memoir right now and simon and
of time with them and it is just the most bombshell singular story i've ever heard in my life and um
in my film in the age of disclosure about how the technology works if a craft came down and it had a bubble around it
and james james did the best deep dive ever on it um and i'll tell you i i have heard from some of my
my most trusted uh senior intelligence friends intelligence community friends including you know
discount the other stuff and so i think my my ultimately obviously i you saw the film ultimately
crafts like straight up ufos within eyesight of their homes um that's covered in a lot of my interviews
massive impact on people yeah the average person you know when i think about like my folks in jersey in
to delete oh yeah this this was the hardest creative process of my entire life yeah you know i've been as
right but a movie you know yeah someone tells you someone you know i see it all the time people say my
edited these little short films that my neighborhood buddies would would would star in one of my best
friends shout out to phil desjardins and dan gomez um yeah they uh my buddies uh growing up would would
participate in this police chase in my short film and the guy did it he did it and i sped up the film
he had a great time and um when i go home for the holidays to my little jersey town i often bump into
and it really cemented you know my uh my desire to get into the movie business and and make it a
2018 and that's relevant because uh a really cool thing for me was when when my movie the age of
this documentary right what is the combined impact of my doc and his film gonna do for someone else
it was it was an um i mean put yourself in my shoes man i mean literally my favorite filmmaker since i was
passed away he actually lived in my hometown um he played the head of the cia and he he has that
what they were saying oh my god it was like the move the popcorn movie way of saying like misappropriated
it whoa yeah and then it took off um and these guys were just swimming in the water yeah yeah oh my god
and how serious it is and how real it is and right you know my understanding is he he also had uh
that you know most people either don't know happened or forgot about i put i put it in my film in the
had had learned how real the situation was now it's revealed in my film that most u.s presidents are
some presidents my understanding is some presidents once they learned the base facts kind of like
think tank we talked about it in my film one of the people who participated in the think tank is dr hal
pudoff who's in my film he tells the story about how he and i think he said like a dozen other people from
in my lifetime yeah we will and thank thank you for putting uh shining a light on this topic man i mean
um my pleasure man i enjoy i enjoyed every moment of this and uh we'll we will link your film below