There is a monastery in Vermont.
The new designation of aliens is saber.
So my story is I was about, I was 11 years old living in Germany at the time.
But the main piece of the pie that I wanted to, and the reason that I wanted to have you on, was talking about this alleged real video of an alien that is being interviewed, potentially at S4.
But I was really thought that you could do a great service to my journey, which is all this has ever been.
And the preamble is this, is that folks, what I have said for seven years has never changed.
It is my journey.
That is not BS.
So I know people like to get into the chat log and this is BS.
But tell me the story behind why you think something is not coprathetic.
Skepticism, I think, is healthy.
That was like, well, that is a great statement.
This is, we're not talking about a fuzzy saucer in the sky.
We are talking about a very creepy, weird looking being, whatever it is, puppet, interdimensional, off planet, interstellar.
This is good.
This is, these podcasts are my therapy.
This is my therapy too of talking through this, begging people to help me.
Well, what's nice about my research is that I have the backstory and I can tell it now
Uh, which, which is great because I can speak to you now and don't have to say, I'll have
This is something no one under, no one knows about.
This is him where his demands weren't met.
And his, and his security wouldn't be met, which is my first, you know, my first thing,
If Victor is a, a, a paid actor, you know, central casting.
But if somehow this is the UFO community, this is why a lot of people run from this.
The UFO community told me, but if Victor is a government employee, a military person, somebody
Prove John, prove who Victor is.
this is John Stewart from Chicago.
But Mike Darnell is with Fox Unscripted Television Department.
Sorry to interrupt, but folks have to understand as well during this time, like obviously the audience that is listening is a little more mature.
And this is why I came on the show.
I have had four reality show go, go to pilot, which is, which is huge.
Chris, what I'm trying to tell your audience, and this is very important with the background of Victor, to get a meeting with a network in 96, the verbiage that you would know to, to, to, to be able to tell the blocker, the secretary, the receptionist,
Now, this is where I debunk myself a little bit.
Sitting at the Rocket Pictures office is the only Hollywood director that has ever been to Area 51.
I know you're looking at me like, wait, why is John debunking his own?
This interview is terminated.
Can I ask you who is at your studio at this time?
And I froze going back to what, because we're, we're thinking this guy is a scientist to some degree inside these programs.
So my point is this, a very elaborate animatronic alien by anyone's standards.
So my point is, was there enough money to produce, and people hate when I say this, an animatronic being that we think would have to have had about five operators with remote control cables, dragon skin, rubber skin.
There is a money aspect here.
I'm telling you, there is.
There is a money.
That like, now, the experts in puppetry don't believe for a second this is an alien.
This is a top Hollywood special effects person.
There can't be a hand inside the mouth because the chin is only three fingers wide.
And we've showed part of it where there is really no one in the back of the head from what we can see.
We show the mouth going open like that, which is alarming to me.
So the only argument left is puppeteering.
That is the only argument left.
The person that made that bizarre monitor, which I think is the bombshell.
That if there is, I'm wrong.
But the argument that still does hold up for a lot of people is PSYOP, right?
That is the biggest argument to be made about this case.
What better way to sort of misdirect the audience is to leak an alleged interaction with a being
I'm saying, for me, the only valid argument other than it being real is some insane PSYOP.
And that, to me, is just as valuable in this context because what are you covering up?
of them is Stephen Greer.
27, that there is, that I am 99% positive that it was filmed by the United States government.
We are, we are definitely, um, under the, the, the distinct possibility that that is a
Is, do you think that if it was a PSYOP that Victor was kept in the dark?
So he, by all means, thinks that it is a real alien and was being told.
What's funny about the Bob Lazar story is that I have basically threaded, thread, put
we have multiple people telling us that that has, that is something that is, that turned
this is a big piece of information here that people were like, why would they just allow
When I read that on Google, it was just, again, one of those things I'm like, wow, is this really coming together?
This hired actor is arguing for a minute and a half that he was given the wrong phone number.
And the former FBI agent, he goes, I don't know who this guy is, but stop.
You know, he is the guy.
And you're like, why is he so upset about this stuff?
And one of the biggest things he's pissed off about is, yes, we're not telling the public
An actor from CAA or Central Casting is reading Sean David Morton's Delphi's conspiracy.
I think that potential is still there.
Either it's true or the opposite side of the spectrum, to me, is just as fascinating.
Like, what is the reason there?
And that, to me, is equally as- maybe not equally as interesting.
Obviously, a real alien is much more interesting.
And that, to me, is bizarre.
It is bizarre.
That, to me, is creepier and is more bothersome than some alien in a random underground facility
All they care about is talking among themselves and making videotapes, making documentaries,
So the one that raises it for me is obviously the movements of this being, and then perhaps
The things that lower my conviction for this specific video is A, the lighting.
And no one, why is it so dark?
Yeah, that is not the way Victor brought that video.
That is John Stewart.
But the other gentleman who is.
He touches the beam where it is.
So, for me, that was, I think, the biggest contention is just body language of this second doctor.
That it is such a casually shot video.
That's not your job as part of the government audiovisual documentation, which I think is a great point.
The fact that there is a red stool that you could buy at Kmart in Las Vegas in the 90s,
Obviously knowing that maybe the being's not a contaminant to humans, you have a monitor that still to this day, no one knows what it is.
The erratic heartbeat on that is very strange as well.
The patch on this army officer, the combat patch, is like a dragon, a horse, a wing that I have gone through 3,000 military patches.
I'm looking at, you know, I'm looking at obviously the only semblance of this is the Department of Naval Intelligence, which was on, you know, Bob's pay stubs.
He is an author.
He is a schoolteacher.
This is text.
What is the DNI?
Is it real?
It's a naval aviator telling us the Department of Naval Intelligence, not Office Department, is real.
My name is Sean.
First name is Sean.
And on it is a Colonel Carl Prinslow of the Department of Naval Intelligence.
Don't tell him what it is.
His name is Carl Prinslow.
And what I would like to do with this conversation is to tell you people, to tell you names, facilities,
to let you know that this is all real.
This is going to sound like I'm going to tell a joke at a bar, but it's not.
And John, this is, I want to say his name.
This is like director level, not a director.
So, but he is on the top of the food chain and we're sitting, we're talking.
I said, is the department of Naval intelligence real?
I'm like, is this guy dropping a dime on me?
Is he, you know, is he going to himself?
And I said, um, do, do, do you know, is the department of Naval intelligence a real,
She's like, yeah, it is.
It absolutely is.
And I, and, and again, um, I have proven, I think without beyond a shadow of a doubt that the department of Naval intelligence is real.
Do you know, uh, is it Carl Wolf?
And this is him in his, he's hooked up to tubes and everything.
And he goes, no, you know, being religious, he thinks this is some demon.
And, you know, they say, you know, we're, we're part of the same galaxy, but our mission is to monitor this planet, yada, yada.
And that, uh, you know, he asked him, is God real?
Uh, to me, it's the most credible thing you can ever hear from another human being, period, is when you're about to leave this planet.
No, it is.
This is a hellish 11-way primary in the North Shore of Chicago.
John McCain is brought in.
And so I said, Mark, before everyone gets on, what is the DNI, the Department of Naval Intelligence?
She's like, well, this is...
There is no such thing.
And the last thing with the DNI is he worked for NASA, Bob Osler.
this is...
I don't know what this is.
This is classified.
This is Bob Osler who worked for NASA.
as far as the Department of Naval Intelligence is concerned,
And Bob Lazar created a IRS taxpayer ID that another person's told is classified.
Is Chris Ramsey and Jon Stewart on a short budget going to find 16-millimeter film,
Again, I don't like this guy, but his name is Andrew Burlington.
Who is this lady?
Now this is what people say.
He got, this is what he relayed.
You know, how does it being, or is the telepath, you know, because they put pictures in your
This is what this stenographer, whatever, transcriber.
Well, this is part of this, this for the past six years, people come out of the woodwork.
It is frustrating as well, because, you know, part of you is like, you can hold this information
I'm going to prove this is fake right now.
I said, but this monitor, this monitor is bizarre.
So this is a, this is a cute story and it, and I love telling it because it, it, it's charming.
This is the research and development department of Space Labs.
We'll tell you what we think it is.
We have no idea what this is.
I'm like, well, this is, this is interesting.
This is Hewlett, uh, Hewlett Packard.
I said, is there John Stewart?
Is there a really old guy in your R&D department?
And I said, sir, my name is John Stewart.
Is there any way I can get your email and email you this clip?
And you tell me what this is.
This is five minutes later.
This is after space.
I mean, this is talk about the internet in smartphones.
I said, this is allegedly from an underground government facility.
Allegedly, this is monitoring the physio, physio, physio, physiology, physiology of an extraterrestrial.
you know, heart and lung is one, one unit, um, a human physiological monitor would not work.
This, this guy is giving me like a breadcrumb trail.
This is not enough.
The guy's name is Sven.
This is a guy with his two cohorts that's just did the history of physiological monitors.
And I simply said to myself with having a rudimentary knowledge of Hollywood is a schlocky third tier production company really going to invent this monitor that has never been created in the world.
This is the start of the writing the checks.
His name is Bill Mums.
Um, but there's a, I don't think this is real, but I'm saying that on face value, but it's 16 millimeter and nobody uses 16 millimeter.
This is, this is weird.
It is bracketed by a metal bracket, not where Chris Ramsey and John Stewart would put four pieces of angle iron metal around a piece of glass.
And on the one part of the, of the bracket is a protrusion, like a cartridge of a bullet, like a, you know, like the top of a missile, like somebody had a mold around that, like something went, why would you just not put four pieces of metal together?
This is bracketed.
He goes, I think this is real.
And I want to, I want to, this is Whitley.
that the gray beings, that is one way or possibly a way of them communicating.
It is kind of a communication device.
And the ones that we have devised this green box and this is the way they communicate.
This is one of the oldest internet programs, pre-podcast in America.
John, I believe this is real.
So I talked to the Jeff Rents producer pre-interview, which is standard operating procedure.
Jeff Rents is producer.
This is an interesting exchange.
So this is about nine months later.
He's obviously an old, well, I know who he is now, but he is an old person, older person in his 70s.
What we have found out is the Defense Intelligence Agency runs all things, alien, extraterrestrial,
And under that umbrella program is NSA, DOE, DNI, Navy, Air Force, so on and so forth.
This is why you come here.
And this is from, so this is like Jon Stewart sending an email from Chris Ramsey to the UFO investigator.
And it says, this is not talking to me.
This is so important.
This is Jon Stewart and Chris Ramsey, two pals, communicating with each other.
But haploloid is someone that has something that has one sexual chromosome.
This is a haploloid.
That is the only classification that I talk about.
This is like the MJ-12 document where it's going to list military men's names
My hand, Chris, my hand is shaking because I'm getting real.
My hand is shaking.
Now this list is given to Linda Molden Howell,
And he's like, this list is from 91, right?
Now, this is slightly funny.
He is a cardiologist in Connecticut.
This is Linda Moldenhow.
This is Linda Howe.
he is counterintelligence.
There is no Colonel Donovan.
my name is John Surin
He is no ghost.
which is,
my name is Jon Stewart.
Is there any way possible
A light bulb is coming on
I know this is bizarre and crazy,
but this is what came across my desk.
Victor says the medical staff at S4 is chosen more for their ability to keep secrets than their medical knowledge.
here it is.
but that is happening.
but that story is 1000% accurate.
There is a monastery in Vermont.
Christian sect there is the Carthusian order.
is this person leaking?
I know this is going to sound crazy,
but this is what was told to us.
Vow of silence is interesting too.
I think this is scary,
20 years from 08 is,
Which is 20,
That is,
and this is something,
that's just the way it is,
this is obviously super,
this is all the president's men,
And I think that that needs to be duly noted for anyone thinking this is like,
Anecdotal evidence is still valuable in my opinion.
there is,
this is no longer,
you know who Leslie is.
I want to tell the story because this story is about me too.
this is my Paul Benowitz breakdown scene.
But that is,
do you think this is a game?
this is not going to,
My story is going to be in the New York times.
David Grosh didn't say that video is real.
And that is my quest right now is to find someone just got out,
is in the military,
This is why,
and this is,
and this is why,
This is the guy that will,
This is not uncommon for the government to leak something,
that is a light deflector and it is a biofilm.
what is he goes?
The new designation of aliens is saber.
Now this is what?
And a two-star general is there.
I need you on camera to tell me this program is real.
This is really starting to freak me out.
This is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
this is this happy,
who is nicer than nice.
nice Chris Ramsey is all of a sudden is like,
if that document is real,
but that is a code.
Q is the section of S4.
94 is the year
and 109 is,
this guy is sending us
This is like
this is strange.
your name is on our
This is Andrew
This is Andrew,
but this is what I've been told
the DIA is going to go over
is the rug going to be pulled out?
that is the unofficial name of it.
is same with Victor.
There is reticence
which is,
is hallmarks
There is no more,
that is something that I was very impressed
this is,
this is not an interview.
This is a dialogue.
is that,
is that another counterintelligence aspect?
is definitely the way to go
Is that,
is that something?
and I think this is your words,
Is Richard Doty one of those helpers?
Is Richard Doty someone I call for?
The person telling you this is one person.
is this person active intelligence?
I know who he is.
that is bringing me into,
this is my opinion.
That is bringing me into talking about technology.
That is all that the East Coast intelligence agencies care about at this point.
So that is keeping me safe.
but time travel is a concept.
whatever it is.
Or is it they just don't want you to say the word?
This is my opinion.
requests is more about,
I was the one to bring it up because I read the tweet and the tweet is,
that there is a,
it is my opinion that it's the good guy,
it tells me that the narrative is a,
looking glass is important.
is it because the other species are like us,
is it because that's what's happening and that's what they want to cover is like the fact that they're here.
Or is it the fact that they're like bugs and they're,
what do you think is the reason?
What do you think is the reason for,
I'm just saying the Roomba vacuum cleaner is,
It is not diminished.
he is the,
So the chairman is really the only person that has emailed me out of the blue.
It is concerning.
All I can say is one thing.
Is that what they told you?
and I think that is 90% of this draconian,
The draconian structure that is be oppressing this secret is we don't,
the world resides in a country that is run,
If this gets with any other country who is nefarious,
I just want to know if any of it is real.
I don't know anybody who is,
tell me this is real or not,
Now is that stay on mission,
Maybe it is something very delicate.
with the end game is for somebody in the fricking government or a former military person to stand up and say this,
this is this doctor.
This is this doctor.
This is the facility was at.
This is real.
I know this is real.
I know where this body is.
But everything they drip feed me comes to fruition or is.
Is that,
that is,
is a,
is like,
this is wow.
that is my,
that is my.
Who Victor is.
and the deal is go out.
Is it true?
This is about aliens.
One of them is when this,
if this is real,
do I think the government knows who Victor is?
there was a real catch-22 that the government is still in with this film.
Do you know who Victor is?
How is that?
but is a jerk like Bill Moore that speaks French.
This is my,
His name is Brian Pemble.
I want to know who Victor is.
I want the fee that PayPal is going to charge me.
which is a Florida birth from Victor,
There is a John Stanton Willett who died in October of last year,
this is John Stewart.
Now this is when we go back to deception detective work.
there is no one.
That you have come up with a name that is nowhere.
This is an entry log into Groom Lake and the Nellis test and training range
this is Victor.
this is what the Groom Lake log.
I think J is a middle initial,
will it is nowhere.
this is,
all I can say is this,
is that we are,
will it is not his real name.
And this is amazing.
This is an interesting story.
But if his name is Stanton Johnson.
that is our next.
The best antiseptic is sunlight.
This is a tough question.
Or is it a draw?
it would have been much harder to put a timestamp on a film than it is digitally.
And so the timestamp that's on the Victor video is more impressive.
Which is like my daughter's got that.
That is what I've been told about skinny Bob.
And I don't even think you even realize this is to my,
SOM 01 extraterrestrial recovery manual is,
is real.
Everything in that document is searchable.
there is an S four at ton of power.
S four is like just a storage facility.
this is where you take living that aren't degenerated,
I think I know what OPNAC and that you've been talking about is.
says I know what the BBS is.
Is the Russians disparted.
No man's land is Papoose Lake.
is like Jon Stewart's Don Quixote,
He also is so frustrated with me.
that he knows who Victor is.
and if I tell you the truth of what that film is about,
That is in an email from an 84 year old,
is that the mission?
and UAP Gerb is another person who's kicking doors.
I think what you're doing is a,
is a net positive to,
hopefully you get to find out who Victor is.
this personal touch is probably what got me a lot of people to help me.
My email is,