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In 1987, tells George Napp on a local Las Vegas TV,

there's an alien interview film about to be released.

And he eventually ends up at Rocket Pictures,

a second-tier video production company.

It's not made in a series.

It's just, there's one of them, one off.

We now know that that is not entirely true from our investigation.

It was actually a United States Air Force cameraman that

was the active agent that made the second copy.

It was a 16 millimeter film and took this off of Area 51,

a group of disgruntled employees of S4

and this extra trustable program would meet in Las Vegas.

They waited five years.

I can see your brain going like this.

These are not hoaxes.

This is not the hallmark of hoaxer.

Get it out and give me the money.

They wait five years and then release the film and sell it to rocket pitchers.

I mean, nothing makes sense.

Okay, so let's assume that this is a real alien.

How does Victor saying that the alien ended up on the military base?

They say it's an interview, but it seems more like a...

Like a medical exam or something.

But anyway, so being examined or interviewed, whatever.

Yeah, he has alignment for the electric company.

And he just happens to be out driving.

He's put in his trees.

Like it's insane.

There's gases or something in the area.

Everybody has to wear their masks.

They're flying them out in helicopters.

This guy and a few people end up escaping the military, getting to the mountain...

He said, yeah, I know S4.

But that wasn't the facility that that film was shot.

And I went on the internet just an accursary search and started putting in these men's names. And I'm getting Wikipedia bio photos of these military men that I've never heard of, but they're all part of military intelligence to some degree.

I look up Carthusian monk and it's a monastery and Mount Equinox Vermont. And I'm like, you know, okay, just let me go home and so for four months, I started researching all these men on the list.

So at what point so you're so basically you're hitting a brick wall and you've investigated all these people and people are either ghosting you or you're it's not going anywhere or you're having things taken removed. They're not providing you information.

Right. But then we suddenly have these Navy pilots that come out. Right. Is that about what the time I met you basically thrown in the towel and then suddenly you read a newspaper article or you're watching the TV and they say, hey,

I don't want to scare the crap out of them so they run down to the basement and hide for three years. Remember that statement. This is too bizarre. And he's got proof he thinks that this is this alien film is real. Three network executive said, pass, pass. So my producer's like, I, you know, if I can do anything I hope you I will, but we're just, you know, water that in the water.

Remember I was out to find who Victor was 30 years looking for this Victor 27 years actually. And somebody emails me and by the way during all this we've a college kid figured out the code name of a facility in the in Brumuda in the 50s and early 60s that housed live extra terrestrial is a whole nother story.

Basically tell you what his name was. Stan. Yeah. Don't call me by my real name. So I'm thinking Stan Stanton. Folks for nine months. I researched the obituaries. His Victor said he was dying in 08. I can't find anything.

He's talking on doors, stalking people, you know, taking him off for coffee or they tell me what you know. I said, Chris, what would you do if you were me? And he's like, that's interesting. He came back and 08.

Not his name, just his bio. And I always said to myself, which was great intelligence that someone gave me. I said, how many know Victor's bio if he didn't know who Victor is, how can I put Victor Victor and Phil Klass together? How can I ever feel class is dead? How can I ever find a connection in cosmic conspiracy? Who is stand day interviewing? Phil Klass as a skeptic for the documentary. So that's how this guy knew Victor and knew that Victor released it, released the film.

Or helped release, released the film. And I, and he's a hostile witness now. But God damn it, Matthew, 27 years. It's like finding your long lost father that you never knew. I found my guy. I begged him. And he's not an actor.

And he went through a whole specific list of how hard it is with glass. If you were going to use glass or marble on those eyes of the reflection and he goes a special effects person goes through a whole dissertation of why most likely those eyes are something biological again. So I have not one person in Hollywood.

The government in the UFO world that has said here it is. This is the conclusive reason why this is fake. And that's why I went forward and made the documentary because I was out of answers.

And anything non human intelligence related is classified as majestic eyes only majestic take this to the bank, majestic eyes only that is the top designation higher secrecy than the atomic Manhattan program of the atomic bomb.

So they did a maneuver, but they did a maneuver because it wasn't as classified as people think it was. It was so obscure.

There are NASA says it was only going 40 miles an hour. Do you know this? So just bear that in mind. I'm not I'm not pooing the story. I'm just saying.

So they got this film out. They found Lualizando that was doing a kind of like a side project of with arrow and a tip and and it's real sketchy if he was the director or wasn't I'm not getting into it.

But they got lute released as to to two up reporters that I spoke to about the alien interview. Ralph Lumenthal and Leslie Kean and they got New York Times to release this this tick-tock video.

What it is we still don't know is it a drone of some sort is it just a Chinese drone or something that's the NASA did the trigonometry.

It was 10,000 to 13,000 feet in the air going 40 miles an hour. So but but what did it do? It opened the door for the for somebody like the New York Times to start saying aliens and using the vernacular UFO where news outlets can talk about John Stewart.

to tell you and don't go looking right I'm saying like they're deep underneath the you know whatever and don't go looking like it's a problem and we and we

prefer their technology for the better of America for the better of the world yeah that's what we know some style stuff we have an agreement

you find out that there's an abyss there's a deep area in in the ocean where there is actually you don't really know what's

happening right you see any contact with that so it kind of a very end of the movie you realize oh my god these are aliens right like

years from now we'll be 20 to 30 years from now we'll be decreasing the population.

Earth rates are not matching or yeah not matching death rates in many countries we have major problems and

wasn't bad it wasn't bad for what it was you know you know Matthew I think it's it's kind of

interesting that you can't dance around not you us the world you know ask a scientist ask an

Jupiter and so it expands and contrasts when it expands and contracts when it could you know when

it's a great interesting that somebody else kind of said the same thing as as somebody said the

in the cold war in the 80s we found that guy too so the the the the conversation is startling

and we tell you who Victor is in his whole bio I think this is just gonna just open up I think it's

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