This is back in the 80s.
And really interesting was happening so many emails me and says hey, hey, hey, Victor's dark in face on the documentary in 97 somebody highlighted it, lightened it. It's on Reddit. Oh my god. I go to Reddit and I see Victor. He looks like the southern wrestler from the 80s.
He had a UFO skeptic newsletter back in the 90s. Now going through your mind, all these old 80s and 90s websites and newsletters. And I was told that Phil Klass had Victor's bio on his skeptics web skeptics website and newsletter.
I'm going to operate his website. Matt, I'm looking in your eyes. Please illuminate me. Am I nuts? 95% of the people involved that I interviewed that said they were part of this are in their 70s. They're early 80s.
in the cold war in the 80s we found that guy too so the the the the conversation is startling