to keep it hidden from everybody it it it sent the first five years I call five years of darkness
years of you know we call darkness not because of the phenomenon because in those five years we
not before the first five years it was um but I did with other people you know some scientists got
you know why I'm here and I knew why she was there because I'd struggled internally for five years
I shot my first deer five years old I was shot in the back at 10 years old had a near death
well to begin with this is in the book for the first five years we had been involved with the
environment look like Utah I have been obsessed for five years with Utah more than that