We, we flew there. I think it was in 2021 with a camera crew. We're going to be there for a month.
And then finally in 2021, I think it was, he managed to get him to come meet with us and he agreed reluctantly to go on camera.
And so we file that FOIA in 2021, 2022, probably 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025.