They captured one.
They can say what they are, they can, they say something,
they say something, but I see it there, in my face.
And, uh, first three to five months, particularly when we were arguing over something, I was so frustrated,
because I was like, I couldn't communicate with this guy, and English wasn't on the table at all.
Yes, sir.
Um, you, sir, have just released the next phase of moment of contact by the time this airs.
So I think you're forgiven.
And I think most people would have felt the same way, but things have changed.
mentioned that Marco came clean to this doctor because he's like, yeah, yeah. So sorry. Yes. I
need you to save my life. Um, because essentially he was ill and he spilled the beans in hopes that it
contact has an incredible emotional reaction to the crash site where he literally falls to his
knees and cries. Um, just a startling piece of footage watching that, you know, so I'm so glad
you guys caught that on video. That was just such a powerful moment. And Carlos is a geography
professor. So, you know, he's not, uh, I don't know. And an ultralight pilot. And yeah, absolutely.
So, you know, um, he's got a keen eye, he's a credible witness and, you know, you were able
to talk to him and bring him to the crash site. Can you tell me what it was like watching him
just start running and, and, and being, you know, telling you it's here, a key, a key. He's
like, it's here, it's here. That was just so such an emotional piece.
Well, it was really initially quite frustrating because we, uh, Marco Leal had found, cause,
okay, so I'm going to back up for a minute. I did a film called The Phenomenon and in The
Phenomenon, I worked for five or six years, maybe a little longer on the Virginia case,
know where the bloody crash site is? Like, I mean, Oh yeah, it's been over a quarter of a century.
And I'm thinking this movie is not off to a good start. You know, we hadn't gotten like
You don't know at the time. It was like, we got the map. It was like, oh my Lord.
You guys did that in the first one with the sort of suburb of, you know, the town.
orange glowing thing.
If you look at also there's the, uh, the guy in, in Mexico who, uh, Carlos Diaz, Carlos
And this was happening and he's just, he's baffled of this.
What, you know, what is this?
And this is something that I've been doing recently is I'm asking all the witnesses, the
firsthand witnesses, people like Carlos and Dr.
And of course nothing.
And here we are almost 30 years later.
hospitals in the area, the head neurosurgeon, who's still active, still working there today.
Yeah.
and, uh, and I encourage people to come forward and join this movement.
This woman's telling the truth.
And there's so many others that had those encounters.
AJ Givard died.
And that was Pedro Luis Aguiar, the retired police chief.
Yes, sir.
Her eyeballs were like, like, like push, like her eyes were so open in her eyes.
And she's looking at her husband and she's not blinking.
Yeah.
I don't know what, but she was like this.
Yeah.
Really bad arthritis.
So, um, that trust and that friendship is, uh, is, is, is happening.
And again, power in numbers, right?
And then he was admitted into, uh, one of the hospitals, uh, uh, regional or humanitas.
I think it was maybe both.
That's right.
And they were demanding and she's only, she's only done one interview, the wife, right?
Right.
And I need to make this abundantly clear.
We may suppose that such a being could use this bacteriological weapon.
So this is him just trying to piece it together.
Cause everybody, according to the firsthand eyewitness testimony that I've talked to that came in contact with this creature, that it was not hostile.
It was not aggressive.
It was suffering.
It was scared.
It wanted help.
Uh, and all the communication occurred through the eyes.
Okay.
Yeah.
No antibodies could phase this thing, by the way.
Again, I want to bring that home.
Well, Dr. Cesario said he threw the kitchen sink.
Yeah.
And it, it destroyed everything.
He'd never seen anything.
They, he'd never seen anything like it.
Within a week.
Yeah.
Within a week.
He was, yeah.
I think he died through two to three weeks after he handled the creature.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Weeks.
Yeah.
Within a week after, uh, yeah.
Coming to the hospital.
He was, he was gone.
Um, okay.
We're going to move forward to a next, the next part of the documentary.
And this is where we talk about the flying disc.
Uh, and the family that you met with, uh, who quote unquote says when they saw this disc
spinning, glowing in the air, they said it was looking for something.
I don't even want to go on camera for this.
Like I'm doing this like at great risk.
Like, holy smokes.
Where'd you find that footage?
Put it through AI.
I don't know, whatever they can do, whatever technology software.
This never happened.
Keep your zip.
Cause the girls have had everything to lose and nothing.
Everybody has really.
Yes, please.
So, uh, Marco Leal, who's an exceptional researcher, boots on the ground is my partner, co-producer.
But as long as we disguised his, disguised his voice and filmed it from the back.
And you know what?
That was in the.
That was the driver.
UCEF.
Yeah.
for this case was a full-time job.
Just trying to, you know, receive all the messages, process all the messages, try to
up to 10 days or eight days or a week after January 20th.
So we just covered that whole window, but I didn't want to do much.
Right.
I mean, I'm just not, I'm not seasoned, but everyone that I've shown that to, including
You know what I should do?
I should get some of the members of Congress that I'm working with to do that.
the eyes of that being. And that was just so powerful seeing how emotionally worked up he
was and delivering that. And you being able to connect with him and him being able to read that
our DP had such a tough task at hand because everything was on the fly. Nothing was set up.
He had light coming in from the windows. He was like, James, I was hustling. I was trying not to
you know, the congressional hearings are very compelling. The allegations, crash retrieval,
Pacacini, Huberto, Jada, Rodriguez, Marco Petit.
It's exciting.
steady, stable. Like I'm a magician. Yeah. I know, you know, what it takes to develop
certain muscles in the fingers and different parts of the hand for, you know, slight of
youngest. Cause Katia was 21. Liliani was 16. Her daughter, her daughter, her sister was 14.
Yeah. I would write a science fiction book.
That's a, that's a, yeah.
how do you know there's something on the other side? And without a moment's hesitation, she's like, well,
my, um, my partner lover died in my arms, you know, while ago. And, you know, he was there one minute
and then the next minute, his soul, it was just a carcass. It was like a piece of styrofoam. I mean,
it was cardboard, you know, and she was like, where did the essence of his soul, like where, what just
happened? You know what I mean? Cause it's very obvious that this he's gone. So she started
researching him and she said that she found a medium. I don't think she'd ever met this medium.
And I, she might've even used an alias, but she, uh, I was, I think it was a remote thing.
Somebody in, um, it might've been Arizona. And, uh, she said, look, James, it was one of two things,
either somehow this medium read my mind, things that I weren't even thinking about very intimate