His name was, uh, Jeff Siggansky and had a lot of respect for him.
Well, so he tells me and, and I was like, God, not this case, but I had so much respect for him and he was so helpful and influential that I just said, yeah, Jeff.
Jeff, change your life.
this guy, Jeff Sagansky earlier in the show.
And, uh, Jeff, I had tremendous, I still do. I have, in fact, he just called me a couple
Um, and one day I asked Jeff Sagansky, Hey, why are you so good to me? Why are you helping
it was a while ago, obviously. And, uh, and Jackie Gleason told Jeff Sagansky to his face,