Absolutely. The American Orthodox Catholic Church legally came into being in 1965. So it's two years after the
And it got coalesced into one group in 65. And this is where it gets even stranger because in 1965,
to us. And for, for a while in 1965, 66, um, I was fascinated with occultism in general, at least what
me down this, this path that I've been on since that time, since 1965, roughly until this time was