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talking about understanding it from, you know, a Jewish Kabbalah, for instance, I've done a lot of study in

how do we develop a Kabbalah? That's not Jewish, you know, and on and on, I'm looking at all this

Jewish invasion. But anyway, that was his, his perspective, right? So this has become this thing.

And, uh, you know, I'm not necessarily biased towards any ideology here. I'm, I'm, I'm Jewish,

when certain groups of Jewish mystics then will then descend the chariot. That's when they're

the problem that I have. So I don't have a problem with Jewish mystics. What I'm saying is that Jewish

if you come from a very, I would say a very, not strict necessarily, but a conventional Jewish

easier to understand. Um, although the strictures against you doing it by Jewish authorities is very

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