with Andrea Paharic. And one of them is the guy who was the inventor of the Bell helicopter,
about the DeVilbiss family and that rang a bell. So I started looking in phone books and everything
Dr. Randall Bell, Rudolf Hess, by the way.
Dr. Randall Bell, not Hermann. Not Hermann.
Dr. Randall Bell, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dr. Randall Bell, yes, Rudolf. Sure.
Dr. Randall Bell, that's another story. Hermann.
Dr. Randall Bell, great author.
Dr. Randall Bell, great author. Rudolf Hess, not so much.
Dr. Randall Bell, so, yeah, but he, uh, but Rudolf Hess, now it's important to understand,
Dr. Randall Bell, he believed he was in telepathic communication with his wife while he was in
Dr. Randall Bell, because it didn't work in the context of Rudolf Hess.
Dr. Randall Bell, well, because Rudolf Hess did something he wasn't supposed to do.
Dr. Randall Bell, got it.
Dr. Randall Bell, he disobeyed Hitler.
Dr. Randall Bell, and so, Hitler kind of associated him with all this occult stuff.
Dr. Randall Bell, and so that was his kind of retaliation.
Dr. Randall Bell, okay. I don't believe that Hitler was really an occultist. I make that point in
It's, it's, they don't care. Suddenly all of our problems, you know, that famous book, the bell curve,
somewhere out in the West. I think, I think that, I think it originally went through Art Bell maybe,