guys kind of working together. And they were bishops in a crazy church.
Oh yeah. We got all the time in the world. All right. So there's, there's a crazy church.
David Ferry and Jack Martin belong to this crazy church. Okay. Jim Garrison could not figure out what
the hell was the purpose of this church. Like how, how did it fit into this whole thing? He knew that
David Ferry. So there was a church, um, who's head was headquartered in the Bronx of all places,
the American Orthodox Catholic church, which was a big name for a very small church. The church was
sheet a mile along and everything else, but he's running a church out of Kentucky. So Carl Stanley
the whole outfit, right? So you, wow. So you're saying that the Orthodox Catholic Church in the U.S.
Absolutely. The American Orthodox Catholic Church legally came into being in 1965. So it's two years after the
when all this is done, the leader of that church in the Bronx, in New York of all places,
is a Ukrainian priest. He forms his own church as the American Orthodox Catholic Church in the Bronx.
So I did more digging from a very personal reason because I knew this church intimately.
I was involved with that church in 1968 to 69.
in a church of some kind, if you were a minister. That was the 4D deferment, I believe. And I said
church with all the stuff he had without exaggeration. So I said, you have all this stuff.
All we have to do is incorporate as a church and we're home free. That's all we have to do. Then
but we eventually did. And we incorporated the autocephalist Slavonic Orthodox Church of North
we, uh, we claimed was our archbishop. Right? So we became like priests in this church and that was
et cetera, et cetera. There was no Czechoslovak Orthodox church. So that was our background. So I said,
we say, fine, we're doing it. Right. So we go into the church proper. The casket is already there.
religious things. And in the pew, the only people in the church at the time is Rose Kennedy and, uh,
the side entrance of the church where all the celebrities are getting out and we're in the limo.
And he says, oh, okay, follow me. And he leads us into the church, leads us into the sanctuary
to get out of the church. There's an underground kind of a passageway. It's not really that secret,
the American Orthodox Catholic Church. The intelligence front.
Well, the church itself, as I found out later, I found out years and years later. I mean, I always
suspected because I know I saw weird shit going on in that church from the beginning, but I found out
church stationary that I had typed on back in the day. Wild.
Where the leader of the church, a guy called Propheta, was writing letters to Jim Garrison saying,
church. That was this intelligence front, which had something to do with the JFK assassination.
Um, how, how much more involvement do you have with the church itself? And do you see them,
in the, in two different Orthodox churches. One was the Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia.
Orthodox Church outside Russia. These were the Russian Orthodox who were anti-communist. They fled, uh,
this church on the Upper East Side in Manhattan on Park Avenue and 93rd Street. And we would go in there
don't come back again. You know, that was brother Victor, another whole story. The other church was
the one on 97th Street and 5th, and that was the Russian church that owed allegiance to Moscow.
Well, in the Orthodox church, it's almost the same, kind of similar. But there's a prayer and a gesture
the bishop who ran the church, Propheta. He was very proud of the fact. And he constantly said
your, your, your experience in the, um, you know, Orthodox Catholic church, how you kind of bumped into
and stuff, you know, which we used to make for the other bishops when I was in the church. So that was
I talk about the Catholic Church, you know, and the fact that they saw it the same way. The communists
have a Catholic church that's willing to make that choice to cut a deal with the people who really
church treated people for centuries. You know, the Orthodox churches included and the, and the,
well, we have to get rid of these people. They're evil. So the church has that in its background,
um, because the church represents the sacrificed king, but they were more than willing to work with
Yeah. Temple of Set. He found it. He was with LeVay's Satanic Church of Satan.
quote unquote churches, right? Or temples, the church of Satan and then temple of set. But he didn't believe
church of said and you're Satan, self-professed Satanist, and then you are,
are long. Um, so this one goes back to 75. Um, it goes back to the church. It's connected to the,
the Orthodox church, the one that we started, my friend and I see, we started the church.
doing this. Um, it's, it, believe me, it connects, it all connects up. We formed this church. Okay.
Uh, and during the time we had this church, we're going around, you know, as church people going to
do church meetings and that sort of thing. So we made a friend, a guy called Andre Panaccio. Andre
Panaccio was a priest in the liberal Catholic church, which was an offshoot of the Theosophical Society.
And that's in Greenwich Village in Manhattan. And it was a synagogue plus Presbyterian church.
overtones that took place in a Catholic church during Holy Communion and everything. So it was all this,
churches at the time. Right. So this happened. And that same church then went on. I broke with
didn't feel that secure. So I left. Right. As soon as I left the church, I got a notice from
So then a little bit after that, what happens is I find out that the church that I had left,
working for him, monks, people that I didn't know, people that had come to him from some other church.
the church guy who was burning all the books and he didn't have a clue. He didn't want to know at this
wise to stay or get as far away from it as possible, but still, I mean, he was the church they belonged to
the Russian Orthodox church, the staff for the bishop is exactly that. Two serpents around a