He, he seems to have known Clay Shaw, which was one of the reasons why Jim Garrison went after him.
Clay Shaw and Fred Crisman seem to have known each other well enough that
Clay Shaw phoned him at the time that all of this was going on with the Jim Garrison and the Kennedy
assassination. He's Clay Shaw. Oh, it was Clay Shaw. Clay Shaw was the one guy that, uh, Jim Garrison
uh, Tommy Lee Jones plays Clay Shaw in that film. Uh, so he was the guy that was at the center of it,
Kennedy assassination. And evidently, Clay Shaw calls Fred Crisman. So why, right? So you're asking
the, uh, you know, JFK assassination. Just so weird. At least we know the Clay Shaw connection and then maybe