Jacques Vallée is roughly kind of Gnostic in his orientation. So do you think that we're living in
famous movie, the ninth gate, which is also, I think Jacques Vallée's favorite movie.
Now Jacques's going to call me up and say, it was you. Um, no. Okay. This is the thing we have to
Jacques Vallée, all in the same room for me, it was a thrill because I had never met Hal or Jacques before.
Chris, Hal, Jacques said nothing. And then Hal finally looked around and said, well,