He was the guy in the Pacific Northwest during 1947, during the, the whole UFO flap with Kenneth
but Roswell happened just slightly later. Initially it was Kenneth Arnold. He was a pilot.
and visit Fred Crisman, uh, and his partner and, um, Kenneth Arnold shows up, right? He's invited to
see in all the rest of it? I think that there's a lot of weirdness around that meeting. Uh, Kenneth
that Kenneth Arnold saw, you know, in 1947, the same design, without him knowing, at the time he