You had Wernher von Braun going through these rituals. His mentor, Herman Oberth, on record,
the boss of, uh, what's his name? Wernher von Braun. Wernher von Braun. Yeah.
think there's some story of Wernher von Braun's, you know, um, giving off trade secrets at the border
Wow. Right. Yeah. And it's, it's even Wernher von Braun and, you know, like the, look at the early,
of the Nazi program space program. It was, it was Wernher von Braun, Arthur Rudolph and 129 Nazi
worked at Huntsville, right? So he worked for NASA. He had met Wernher von Braun personally,
name DeVilbiss out of my head and plucked the one that was connected to Huntsville and Wernher von Braun,