fresh and i have to say i was just completely thrown by that last scene with the neurosurgeon
talking about that being it was like that what he described is like exactly what you would imagine
virginia i need to dig deep on this one which we did later multiple times and um uh marco sits down
with him and questions him some more and it's like pushes them further and he denies having seen the
happen i have the surgeon the neurosurgeon is coming to washington dc yes but i gave a statement
because if anything happened because his health has been precarious so i got a statement from him
work helps me deal with stress relief helps me deal with the anxiety of the days ahead or when i'm sitting
at home surrounded by screaming toddlers and crying babies late in the evening when i'm at home
bacteria that killed marco shirizzi evidently yes what what else did he say about that bacteria
specifically so the doctor you see right here there's dr cesario with the glasses on there's a guy
puts it in the back of the car i was told even on his lap by one of the one of the brazilian
researchers new eric lopes but i'm not sure about that takes it to a clinic and the clinic doctor came
out saw the creature and was like i don't know what that thing is get it out of here and then he
ultimately takes it to a regional hospital where he drops it off and then dr italo was on duty that
night so uh he gets a scratch and apparently had like some oil on his skin which is weird because
the girls described this creature as exactly as the same creature that italo saw the little knobs on
the head the big eyes he described them as they described him as red he described him as lilac um his
he described the the skin was more more of a white they were saying brown and oily in the operating
room right they said it was white too yeah it was exactly in that well let's say the operating room
of the uh it was the icu yeah icu yeah so anyway um i don't know man one can speculate but the girl
said it was cowering it was afraid it was suffering that she said that it was really because january is
have to do disclosure and they're talking about skiffs and congress and and uh uh unidentified reverse
engineered craft sitting in hangers and you're in the jungle talking about a freaking alien being
like i need so i'm just hoping that all these efforts and and and the recut of the film which quite
honestly maybe the first cut moment of contact which was very compelling right i mean it's very but
implications and technology yada yada yada now you have a case and this case didn't happen in the
united states this happened in brazil right now it involved the us and we didn't learn that till late
probably 7 30 7 45 something like this i'm going to guess and we show up at sol and film we show up at
you come in you know come on in and invites us in and i think one of us had a mic on us just so we
could pick up the audio um and then the audio guy was in the car monitoring and then i and then my dp
little table to the right if you're looking at the couch it was to the right and his wife was sitting
at the table with his with his son and his wife had eyeballs i've never seen her eyeballs i remember
we had virginia in 96 we had we had the massive flyover phoenix lights in 97 march wasn't there
also a lot of like abduction uh claims in the 90s you know abductions are things that i've always kept
funny actually because they all saw they were out having tea and i don't know what time it was maybe
it was seven o'clock 7 30 whatever late in the afternoon early evening and uh and um they said
babies floating in alpha centauri what cool dude all right great yeah you know we never went to the moon
okay yeah right you know i'm just saying like we're cool right you know right right i'm good with it
you know and i was like well scary like i have something to worry about like a fearful no no no
no no you'll you'll you'll you'll be fine we'll be fine so i was like well and it was like a crowbar
trying to you know what i mean but i wanted to be tactful i didn't want to just be like you know
you know so the conversation a little more and pry a little further i said uh well like um like
how how how is it scary the individual goes intent their intent and i was like oh their intent like
what the hell is their intent they know what their intent is like origins and intent that's the gold i
mean that's the holy grail as far as i'm concerned i don't know so i said and then just as i was going
to pry a little further thinking like and i could see leslie leslie was looking at me from 30 feet
away over where we were talking to you staring at you staring at me she was like like she knew
she goes i know that look on your face because i've been working with you for over 30 years and i
you a video steve yeah continue it's all good when you look at carlos de souza look at it carefully
when we get to the crash site we go out in moment of contact right right new new revelations uh
extraterrestrial i'm like i ain't doing that like if a witness wants to say they saw an extraterrestrial
have at it i'll provide a platform earlier we got to say but like you know what i liked about
katia is one of the girls that was 21 at the time she was with the two sisters liliani and valkyria
search and rescue operation because that's one distinction that we made that you might have noticed
the difference between the old version moment of contact and the new version moment of contact
you and age you and stress you like and i'm looking in these eyes and i'm just like who is this
guy like look at those eyes i remember just looking in his eyes like someone that felt plagued with
that's interesting i don't really like do a deep dive honestly like i did i know you don't yeah
really do i'm that way myself excuse me i just i respect that and i totally understand anyone that
might say to me you're out of your mind right i know every time i get back from brazil that i'm at a
super sweet and he goes yeah you know i know have you seen james fox's movie and i could see this look
on joe's face and then michael schellenberger brought it up again on his show and then he was like
You know, they saw like beams of light.
Well, there was a landing of an object.
Can you look up Robertson panel?
And they call it a problem because the way the military looks at it is you've got objects of unknown origin.
They don't have a Russian flag or a Chinese flag, but they're whizzing around with impunity.
They exhibit a technology that's light years advanced for anything we've got, particularly back then.
And we don't know who it is and where they come from and what they want.
Well, no governing body is going to want to disclose that nature of information.
So they convened the Robertson panel.
The Robertson panel, they adopted the Air Force of this policy of ridicule.
And it was a very effective campaign, and it worked.
And to this day, it still kind of works.
A little less so today, but yeah, it was a very good campaign.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, totally.
No, and I think that those kind of tactics were used all the time, especially during the Cold War.
You know, in the Cold War, the United States is known for being one of the darkest, most...
That's when the U.S. government was trying to deceive the American public more than any other time.
And we have more declassified documents exposing this stuff than any other time.
That's when we had MKUltra.
The president was assassinated in broad daylight.
Okay, so...
Thank God I'm no longer an editor.
That's, you know...
And that's a whole other topic of conversation.
And she had all these photographs that I'd never seen before.
And then she said, my brother was told that if Neil gets off the moon and he lands
I guess Michael Collins went around the moon, theoretically.
He could feel it.
Ready?
Dude, I have Buzz Aldrin's number.
When I saw the earth getting smaller and the fact that I, it was like when I did scuba
diving.
And I was about three quarters of the way up.
I was panicking, dude.
And Jesse's like, because Jesse and Joe Rogan were talking about it.
Faye Ann Potter told me that her brother had a sighting on the way to the moon.
And she told me that before any of that shit ever came out.
And then ultimately, I met his sister, Faye Ann Potter, who was an artist.
She was an art broker in Kentfield, California.
No cameras rolling.
I'm going to stick it to him a little bit.
That's what she said.
I swear to God, that's what she said to me.
When they got back and they were put in that quarantine, they looked like they'd seen Jesus.
Yeah.
And then there's, like, Michael Collins, who was on that first panel, that first interview that they all did after the mission, right, where they all looked like they saw Jesus.
Yes, I'm sponsoring the event.
Yes, I'm paying for everybody.
So I had a contingency plan, and that was to go and film with my co-producer,
Then we had the crash witness, Marco Carlos de Souza.
And then we have a senator, a sitting member of the Senate in Brazil,
2026, this year.