the capture the the girls like all that stuff lines up perfectly that it was at regional hospital
alive we also had testimony from military ex who drove a creature or two creatures definitely one
the squeaky wheel and we ultimately get a meeting with him and marco puts it on zoom video zoom call
and again this is like a year and a half ago and i was just laser focused on the video like i was so
reeks of sulfur and ammonia yeah it reeked of sulfur and ammonia so but anyway so marco shriez
the same time you have another foot in like washington dc with people like christopher mellon
and lou alizondo like how do you wreck how do you how do you reconcile that like how do you
like when meanwhile i'm having a hard time these guys are going on documentaries that are like oh we
have to do disclosure and they're talking about skiffs and congress and and uh uh unidentified reverse
engineered craft sitting in hangers and you're in the jungle talking about a freaking alien being
and it crashed you and it crashed you like do you have conversations with those guys about this
stuff i do it's really you know my life has been really weird these last couple years my family life
is is really struggling and i don't blame i don't blame her because you know i'm really i'm almost like
it's like if you can imagine witnessing a really crazy murder right and you're a witness to it do you just
like let it go right or do you feel like this burning desire to let the world know it's not
like i want to come across as this crazy you know person that feels the need to spread you know the
the government right like if you look at the history of the united states it's spotty to say
the least with all the wars and everything like that but like the irony of this whole disclosure
sitting on the stovetop and this is the first set of cooking gear i've ever wanted to show off to my
friends with over a million customers and 50 000 five-star reviews it's not a secret how rad these
see something like that and not go crazy right right and one of the one of the women the family
members i interviewed all the kids there were three kids and the wife and the husband was on the phone
i gotta be honest with you i was a little nervous you know but then i was like i'm a public figure in
some respects like not like i'm hiding what i'm doing so i was like guys like you know you gotta throw
public i will always do that and i'll be straight with you guys and i don't get it right sometimes
i get criticized about jason sands do you have any i forgot about that you have any idea the level of
was his records check out i met with people on the inside that had been with a skiff with him i can't
reveal their names they're like look man i know he might i know he has ptsd and i know this but he's
field that's all you can do that is all you can do and be honest open and honest about it which you
clearly are so so i even talked to skeptic magazine michael shirmer the other day what yeah i went on his
i mean so um getting back to what i was saying yeah right um it's okay to say i don't know where
these come from it's okay to say i don't know what the hell is going on it's okay to say that
wanting to meet you i get a picture kind of a cocktail situation you know and i was just like oh
and that was it was over that was it as far as i got yeah so when you asked him that you heard there
compelling is that on other all the other goldilocks planets that we know of yeah the the pressure is
different the there a lot of them are just purely water worlds there's barely any land on most of them
we're smart enough to figure out technology to get off the planet but we are one of over 2 million species
on this earth so we us are super rare just on this planet and if you extrapolate that out to other
planets that are able to inhabit intelligent life he's like sure they could figure out intelligent
intelligent life could evolve but the chances of them being bipedal hominids with heads on top of
their brains that sit right on top of their eyes forward-facing eyes two arms two legs is like no shot in
hell he was making you know that's a really interesting observation and i'm going to go back for a moment to
jason sands and i i get he's a very controversial character i got that um but he did say something
to me that i've heard before and that is and it makes you wonder i don't know i just makes you wonder
he said that the individual and maybe the encounter happened like i remember painting one intel folk down
i was just like you know we have a little evidence on that we have the ufo that was captured and that
whole story that came out and his was like a couple days later allegedly but he said that what year did this
all take place 1994 i think it was okay i'm pretty sure it was 24. it's in the movie the program you
on a bible and i'm willing to undergo a lie detector test yeah i mean that would have some that would
help or yeah that would help or i swear i swear on my wife's and my children's lives i'm telling you
right like maybe it's all of the above right i again i don't know i'd like to know but maybe
we're dealing with interplanetary interdimensional time travelers i mean look out there into the night
and uh so i was of the witnesses yes of the witness the first-hand witnesses we were going to fly
uh did that with the help of the three girls right after the incident that's the cinder block wall
happened it was 1996 april just a couple months later right and so i looked up the location in in
proximity to to virginia and like you know virginia is here sao paulo's down here it was like down in
you know why did you just doorstep him you just showed up at his house with cameras rolling who
does that i was like didn't he pull a gun on you or something so this is interesting there's a new
officer it's like well we didn't ask you that but now that you mention it you know what i mean like
he brought up the et like like immediately like he knew that's wow do you think he could have been
this comes out or maybe a little bit after uh there will be um a 30th anniversary celebration and
people are looking at uh the bravery and courage and courage of ethelo and that's not that's not going
they'd all have to be lying what are the odds of that like what are the odds of that and i know
that people are skeptic skeptic people are always skeptical fair enough but italo like what the
Like is this guy, did he have a credible story?
And to this day, it still kind of works.
I wish I could say the same.
He wrote this book called Blink of an Eye.
And that's a whole other topic of conversation.
And I'm not out there to talk about, you know, that big conspiracy.
It's like, it makes you kind of wonder who's behind the curtain.
And right in the middle of all this lying, guess what?
We went to the moon.
Oh, yeah.
We weren't lying about that, though.
I know.
So I was...
Okay.
And older generation, I'm going to tell you, am I open to it?
Yes, I am.
Am I ready for one Apollo astronaut to come forward and say it was a hoax?
I'm so ready.
I would love to hear that.
My next-door neighbor, we were best friends.
He was absolutely convinced we went to the moon.
And we would have these spirited debates on it.
And he's like, bullshit.
We didn't go.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know?
And I've heard Joe Rogan.
I was really good friends with Dr. Edgar Mitchell, 14th.
I know you were.
Yeah.
Apollo, 14th.
Sixth man to walk the moon.
And I asked him about the controversy.
I asked him about all that stuff.
And I even asked him to walk me through every stage.
I was friends with Buzz Aldrin's sister, Faye Ann Potter.
She took me for a tour in her house, showed me all the photographs,
what the astronauts were supposed to do under a number of operations.
And some stuff started coming out after that.
I guess Michael Collins went around the moon, theoretically.
And he landed and he said when he actually sat down on the lunar surface was the first time that he was like, oh my gosh, that's when it really hit him.
But having that connection to Apollo 14, Edgar Mitchell, man, why would he lie?
Well, I guess he would lie to me, but I told a pretty convincing lie.
He goes, it wouldn't surprise me just because it'd have to produce some high quality, good imagery to the world that maybe they did some stuff as a plan B that leaked out.
Who said that?
Why don't you get him on the show and bring this up?
I would fucking love to.
I couldn't, dude, I couldn't make it.
The boat is like a speck.
Yeah, yeah.
And I said, Jesse, what do you think?
I don't particularly like to take oaths like that either.
Because I don't accept the Bible as a gospel of anything except a historical record.
And she told me that before any of that shit ever came out.
She said they saw something that followed them to the moon.
And it was another guy that was there was the guy in Deliverance who...
So I borrowed a bunch of money, got a small camera crew together.
I went out with Tim Coleman.
And he was staying in some fancy hotel.
Why would it matter that I'm coming forward?
I said, well, with all due respect, sir,
I never thought that, I never expected her to die.
What's crazier?
And I thought, he's right.