talking about that being it was like that what he described is like exactly what you would imagine
so we hear the dr italo this is like a year ago maybe a little over a year ago
and took one look he's like i don't know what the hell that thing is but get it out of here and they
and again this is like a year and a half ago and i was just laser focused on the video like i was so
this is all happening but while we're doing all this in the back of my mind i'm in virginia i'm going
guy and i'm sorry if i'm going off on a tangent but this is important background we've really been
excited but we don't know exactly what is going to reveal to us and i don't even think quite honestly
creature was this is the very bed like right it all happened right here yes and then he just dropped the
his entire reputation online what is he lying to not asking me on camera not asking me for a dime okay
right before he's about to retire what makes sense is that he saw this creature he goes i don't care
it happened and the younger generation needs to know this is what's happening i shared a clip with your
happen i have the surgeon the neurosurgeon is coming to washington dc yes but i gave a statement
which is absolutely mind-boggling mind-boggling dude mind-boggling yeah are you aren't you a little
15 applications 14 applications something like this yeah is this the video uh no that's the other
one that is with the video with him in the coat he's got a coat on in the lab nope that's the one with
go for it i swear that i will share that is the truth and nothing but the truth
the truth is i'm an eyewitness i saw the being say what you want joke mock but i saw him lying there in
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he said he said the bacteria performed in a way that nothing he's ever seen on earth this is the
out saw the creature and was like i don't know what that thing is get it out of here and then he
night so uh he gets a scratch and apparently had like some oil on his skin which is weird because
said it was cowering it was afraid it was suffering that she said that it was really because january is
is really significant development these are scientists you know what i mean so that event was really
this this story is so you're so deep in the weeds with this story right you're in the guts of brazil
is is really struggling and i don't blame i don't blame her because you know i'm really i'm almost like
but what do you do like i feel like if this story is true and i'm ready to put my life on it that it is
story and everyone's like oh dude this is the biggest story ever like this and i'm convinced
testimony i can't say it's ironclad he doesn't have a video but he's this is extremely credible
yeah show me one case i think i think that that whole movie that whole movie is far more compelling
than any of the movies and no not to discredit your movie the program which is excellent yeah
movement is that the people same people that distrust the government are looking to the government
to give us the truth about this right which is why i find your story far more compelling and these
come forward yet but but we'll see what happens the 30th anniversary is is uh january 20th
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interesting the interesting thing is just trying to get people to watch the film yeah because it's almost
everything and in fact at one point i remember this reporter asking me and i didn't know hey why is
trying to do all this research the person whose finger it is is a brazilian person and we've been
from the cia basically saying how many years later three yeah which is a red flag right when you send
your request is denied you know 1949 national security act blah blah blah and therefore your
request is denied we can neither confirm nor deny those records and then you know according to the
1949 you know national security act whatever you're there therefore your request is denied it's in the
little bit and and the chief of police his son was there i think his son is like 11 or 12 years old
into as a military base and everything that he said that he saw it as a military base is exactly lined up
yeah man landing who is it clinton was the president then clinton was the president back then yeah i know
that defcon 2 is fast-paced armed forces six hours or less to deploy and engage near nuclear war
yeah defcon 1 means nuclear war is imminent so it's one step below okay so it's defcom 2 i'm
states would have to be notified look it up google it so this is the same night as the phoenix lights
world and i said well how do you how do you know this is the one they said he could land his jet on
particular mountain oh it'll come to me but anyway i interviewed all these hospice workers and this is
right back to having tea which is the oddest thing like i i can't wrap my mind around it most people
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you know sexual whatever okay my point is at least do some deep digging or perhaps we lobby together
before or months probably just making up you know yeah but my point is losing his entire retirement my
point is is that let's not believe them right let's chase it down why not the the implications are
heart or something like that he said he's wearing his children's lives so that this stuff is real
prison what is that going to say to the public right if you're if you're the president or you're the
day person who does is going to have balls of steel like of course it's it's risky but like imagine
whoever you're you're the gatekeeper you're the gatekeeper is it is it a great idea to throw eric
of his clearances and be out of a job at the very least is he still employed yeah he's got high level
pilot he saw a flying saucer back in 1955 talk to all these is all parallel the technology exhibited is
is so strange man can't even believe i'm in here and i'm thinking to myself god is this a good idea
your documentary the phenomenon is mandatory viewing for anyone who's going to work for arrow no way i was
you know look like well i get cues like oh james is a spook he's working i'm like oh my god come
talking to another insider and like why not why can't i have a seat at the table right like what is
in the military this is the guy who claims he saw the blue alien and then they went down they were
this locations he's who he says he is however he's got ptsd i don't know what's happened to his mind
that were implanted in him i don't know man i i don't know what i do know is i have the names of
live your career i didn't serve the country like you did right but what you're saying is discrediting
feel like i screwed up but what can i say man what more can you do than that this is not an easy
field that's all you can do that is all you can do and be honest open and honest about it which you
i just try to stay in my own lane i put out what i feel is the best information i can people go
oh yeah this is really good it's delicious yeah it's really good white rabbit baby
these come from it's okay to say i don't know what the hell is going on it's okay to say that
is these guys are from the agency and i was like oh cool really nice to meet you guys and we're like
is public why wouldn't they be curious so anyway so i did that then i left and i went to get a drink
individual is like yeah probably 10 probably 10 people that have the bigger picture it's like 10
well i heard that um i don't know i i've kind of heard that the bigger picture is a little scary
this individual is like yeah yeah i could see that so i was like am i gonna find out like what
how how how is it scary the individual goes intent their intent and i was like oh their intent like
what the hell is their intent they know what their intent is like origins and intent that's the gold i
and this is what i learned from mike masters when he was he's the anthropologist who has the extra
compelling is that on other all the other goldilocks planets that we know of yeah the the pressure is
their brains that sit right on top of their eyes forward-facing eyes two arms two legs is like no shot in
to me that i've heard before and that is and it makes you wonder i don't know i just makes you wonder
insane as everybody says and maybe jay sands is lying i i i don't know it's hard to believe look at that
you said you said i don't know yeah i don't which is so rare these days to hear from people yeah i
don't know but he did say something about you know the communication with the eyes everybody is like
okay well that certainly leans in the direction to verifying that that there is that type of
it from other people that have been james clapper is a weird one i've heard a lot of um yeah i mean
that clapper is involved in all this stuff and like he's showing up to the hearings it's like
is his i remember dan ferris saying that clapper oh david grush revealed that dick cheney controlled
that these activities really had central leadership this is what grush is saying okay that's not what i was
i saw that i saw that tweet keep going no this is not it i don't think there you go shots fired that's
what it is david grush tells megan kelly that james clapper managed the ufo crash retrieval issue while
personally i just don't i mean not i don't i'm not buying what um farah is saying oh right right i i
don't buy that james clapper is that type of person yeah somebody like him i mean again i don't know
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matter yeah yeah my point is this let's say you're a high level person within the da let's talk about
shit about is i want to get i want to create a platform i want to put your feet to the fire
world and then tell me who was it where is it where's the craft where's this where's the bodies
the sidelines and go jason sands is full of shit well all it takes is one member of congress with a
retrieval witness a liar like if one person just one person is telling the truth in moment of contact
is terminated and marco and i looked at each other like the fuck really like what i can't even ask you
but anyway but anyway at the end of it and i swear on my life this is true
the interaction is practically licking the dirt off his boots you know like really begging him
question is when you have people like this dude that you met at the premiere that's saying the scary
thing about these things is the intent and on the other hand you have the neurosurgeon saying it was an
we're talking about socorro new mexico 1964 close encounter of the third kind my point is this it's
incredibly frustrating i was thinking this is not off to a good start but it had been 26 years but
stare and he's just re you could what it looks like as a viewer to me is that he's reliving it and he's
getting back to the point of all this is i think about the individuals that he allegedly came in
sometimes i lean in that direction too maybe it is all the above right could be i mean why not
virginia is the girls were like i don't really know what the hell this thing was it wasn't human
i'm to dc this is all happening we're having the event anyway so i flew i flew to dc sorry i flew to
katia is one of the girls that was 21 at the time she was with the two sisters liliani and valkyria
and then they see what they thought was like is that a statue like what the hell is that it was some
feeble it wasn't threatening it wasn't like it was leaping at them and there it is right there yeah
be kidding me this is an extra threshold if the accounts are to be believed and why on earth would
that i had but then i was like oh wait a minute this footage i didn't link this before this is like one of
the best night disc footage of a ufo i've seen this is really impressive and then i was like oh it just
proximity to to virginia and like you know virginia is here sao paulo's down here it was like down in
remember the only living witness to that capture the second capture is eric lopes eric lopes and when
does that i was like didn't he pull a gun on you or something so this is interesting there's a new
you and age you and stress you like and i'm looking in these eyes and i'm just like who is this
going to start flying my translators never once told me that's what was happening which is i had we
et eric won't talk he referred to himself in the third person which is funny it's like cops showing up
your house at a party and the first thing out of your mouth is like hey there's no drugs in here mr
aware is there any way he would have been aware of you by that point like could word have got because
the documentary hadn't obviously had not been released yet no it hadn't but is there any way
around uh did they uh reach out to you by any chance and our military x guy is like uh no no uh-uh
freaking this is after he filmed this is right after we filmed with him yeah and then the individual
of here so so i found out two things after that one is uh i contacted his wife indirectly i can't
interesting thing is i'm not sure if you knew this but so eric lopes married the sister of the
about this is it's like uh it's a prolonged investigation and this stuff's going to come
we have the new mayor mayor vers is no longer the mayor who we interviewed in the first doc
time is uh blood blood so bladsoe saw that bladsoe's son has a tattoo of one with red eyes on what yes he
palm springs at um contact in the desert and i looked at that play i was like what the hell is
what i saw and i got invited to speak at a place called baruibi which is the south of sao paulo on
of us know about don schmidt and kevin randall we know about roswell today is because of the research
phenomenon which is the last film that i'd done i was getting all kinds of mainstream media i was
close to this is before it came out huh they were like you know you've got these great relationships
is right i've heard the name yeah definitely yeah so paul benowitz was a um he was like a ufo researcher
cattle mutilation stuff what is it disinformation i remember kpi 89 that sounds right 88 89 okay so
ufo cover-up live is that the one you're talking about yeah so so so watch that i'll watch the
documentary is called mirage men oh i okay yeah i heard about that it's a fantastic film okay i'll watch
And so they were gaslighting him to believe that this is some sort of alien race that's coming to the planet Earth.
Because the military and the Air Force knew, because this is during the Cold War.
Like is this guy, did he have a credible story?
This is, let's see, it was, anyway, it was John Burroughs, Jim Penniston, and then the third guy, which I'm the only one to ever get him on camera.
Oh, this is Rendlesham.
And I'm not sitting there criticizing Larry Warren, but Larry Warren's testimony is kind of like Jason Sands.
because people go, oh, if the phenomenon is real, why don't they land on the White House lawn?
And they call it a problem because the way the military looks at it is you've got objects of unknown origin.
And we don't know who it is and where they come from and what they want.
Well, no governing body is going to want to disclose that nature of information.
You know, in the Cold War, the United States is known for being one of the darkest, most...
This is the level of precision and professionalism this guy is.
One is they missed the moon and they were jettisoned off into space.
We still have the crate, you know, the machine is still on the surface.
And that too is compelling.
This is my spaceship.
And this is Buzz Aldrin, who's still alive.
So Charlie Duke is the 12th man to walk on the moon on Apollo 16.
So this is, I did what you did.
This is really interesting because Edgar Mitchell told me, he goes, some of the, some of the
The boat is like a speck.
So the cable is designed to walk on.
This is the guy I had on.
And so I started, then I watched some of your show and I was like, wow, this is a great idea.
Yeah, there he is.
He goes, he shows some footage that he found of like Putin watching an AI that says that the moon footage is fake.
Oh, Buzz is her brother.
Yeah, Buzz is her brother.
Is it video or no?
This is the biggest break ever of my career.
So I'm like, okay, finally this is going to happen.
I mean, your story is of tremendous importance, you know?
This is an iconic figure.
This is, he landed on the moon of Paul 11, Neil Armstrong.
And when I got back, and this is my biggest regret.
He said it was, they didn't want to bring it to the attention too much to NASA, but they were asking, like, where is this one thing jettisoned?
Is it there?
Point is, there's aliens in Virginia.
Well, I got the event at the National Press Club, and I think this is coming out.
Yes, this is going to come out right before that happens.
need help because the immigration lawyer is like, hey, man, if you're ever going to get
That is correct.
So I said, well, is your Italian passport valid?
And this is like my name.
So this is all happening.
which is the National Press Club event that I had made a movie about called
the worst case scenario is you never went for it.
And the event for the National Press Club is on?