on the outside looking in someone like myself i'm just joe public man i'm just i'm just a civilian
invited on all the shows tucker carlson like joe rogan cnn msnbc written up in the guardian it was all
on joe's face and then michael schellenberger brought it up again on his show and then he was like
And I've heard Joe Rogan.
And Jesse's like, because Jesse and Joe Rogan were talking about it.