he also said it was like an angel you know uh people have criticized i've gotten a little
virginia i need to dig deep on this one which we did later multiple times and um uh marco sits down
attack and then he had prostate cancer and uh he goes tell him to meet me at the back of the hospital
i have drivers picking him up okay and his wife and i've got other people i've got the the uh
15 applications 14 applications something like this yeah is this the video uh no that's the other
co-workers of 45 years there's another clip is what is this press club event uh january 20th at the
in uh virginia brazil with an unprecedented meeting with all the doctors involved with the case and
for context for folks uh you can go back and watch the original podcast what you and i did about
their personal cars but in any case okay yeah there were two uh military guys eric lopes was
night so uh he gets a scratch and apparently had like some oil on his skin which is weird because
of the uh it was the icu yeah icu yeah so anyway um i don't know man one can speculate but the girl
have to do disclosure and they're talking about skiffs and congress and and uh uh unidentified reverse
about uh maybe a week or two after the trailer dropped and word was getting out that italo was
and uh witnesses and they said uh when we saw that video of you like when we saw that video of you
having his back it was uh it was like um you had all of our backs so i was just like you know i was like
come forward yet but but we'll see what happens the 30th anniversary is is uh january 20th
big wig folks uh in washington that are like all about disclosure disclosure disclosure well here's the
like it can't be therefore it isn't and uh and i just say to people like don't take it from me just
at the highest levels age of disclosure just came out with uh with dan farah and lou elizondo and
this anyway this uh this guy reached out to me and he was like um excuse me i could wipe my nose here
the past years ago he uh and he did not deny having that photograph at the time um we were going to his
virginia and i had my whole crew with me and uh um somehow somebody was needed to go to the bathroom
on our team could have been me i don't know and we stopped at this little pizzeria and uh the the
coming in with all this gear and stuff and he's like oh sit down and i'll make you pizzas and we make uh
doorstep him right we're just going to show up and uh and i was like you know what let's sit down let's
moment of contact and uh um i think i would eventually just said hey uh would you mind if we
also a lot of like abduction uh claims in the 90s you know abductions are things that i've always kept
that night uh it was march 13th 1997 and remember everyone was out under the night sky to get a
glimpse of the hell bomb comet right and uh i see him drinking beers he's drinking beers and that's a
it it's a certain uh defcom and i i'm sorry to your audience that's way more well versed than this
blue and i did another film about it uh i know what i saw which covered that case and the governor
recall correctly the night of the phoenix lights they people recalled seeing these like uh boomerang
uh i'm trying to remember the mountain range right near where they lived but in any case oh they were on
it was seven o'clock 7 30 whatever late in the afternoon early evening and uh and um they said
and then it passes overhead and they go right back to having tea and i went uh excuse me you didn't like
hangers and we have uh 18 captured alien bodies that uh are in our custody in florida new mexico
clearances to this day he still works for them uh he works for i don't know if i can reveal who he
evidence they wanted to show me and i had to get like uh i had to get like 48 hour background screening
december and uh and i i and i i go into uh well they had to do they had to do its background check
even do he was air force officers special investigations osi and uh i look inside the
the world yeah but uh so then the other uh uh john kosklauski the new head of arrow he comes in
like and i started rattling off cases and one of them was like you know james it's kind of funny uh
like that's my that's pretty damn cool right awesome and then uh then i started talking about rua
look into psychological and that changed with socorro in 64. but uh then i said like people
i've heard yeah and and uh well i can can i can i transition into one more thing yes okay so i'm
on that but for now it's on amazon linked below yes find it yeah so uh what was i getting at and look
it should be yeah it should be the same in this in this field like hey man you think uh it's alien
that's what i was going to tell you sorry got sidetracked so i was at i was at the um the uh
was in texas but it was one of the premieres in uh on an aircraft carrier oh yes for the age of
going to get and uh i see leslie leslie keen across the way and there were like guys from the cia
these guys are from the agency and and uh oh little side story so we're like the premiere yeah yeah
intelligence agency okay yeah and uh uh not a bit dod as well but anyway um i saw that this individual
and uh we start chopping it up excuse me and um i said uh i said you know i've heard that there are
know i'm just curious even if i can't share it with the world i still want to know yeah and uh this
and i mean i was all ears so i said uh huh well like what category would you consider yourself
uh probably one of 30. so so you have a bigger picture i mean not quite as big as the 10 but you
you know so the conversation a little more and pry a little further i said uh well like um like
she knew exactly what i was after and uh someone butts in the conversation hey i've been really
can you find jesse michaels just retweeted something i think it was yesterday oh that was uh grush saying
retweeted it and wrote like uh shots fired above it yeah yeah keep going yeah i saw that keep going
serving as director of national intelligence uh when he was the dni the usdi and dia director
now let me just say one thing that that i wasn't sure if you guys were aware of but uh dan ferris said
to me at the screening or after the screening that uh clapper's wife was in the hospital on the verge of
wouldn't right and uh and he goes hey listen i i understand mr clapper if if you need to attend
it was funny actually because we sat down with him i think we had to go up to brazilia at one point but uh
he uh we had the interview and i didn't ask him about virginia but we we turned the cameras off we
a couple meetings with him and uh sat in the car door open driver engine running looked up at marco
when we get to the crash site we go out in moment of contact right right new new revelations uh
frieden talked all about it and he was very impressed but uh you know different the way they looked the
and uh so i was of the witnesses yes of the witness the first-hand witnesses we were going to fly
that next to that steve yeah right there boom that's what the creature looked like uh betty rodriguez
uh did that with the help of the three girls right after the incident that's the cinder block wall
remind me it's not a disc and there's a kid going what part of the movie uh when i when i interviewed
and um and i found out later from other fellow uh brazilian researchers and some of them quite hot dog like
and previous researchers uh uberjado rodriguez clodio covo pacchini uh marco pitt um aj javard
lawyers on the case he was amazing um was it where was i getting that uh the uh the capture yeah
out of his mouth to the guy who used to be a politician a very prominent figure uh romolo and
and i saw these eyes like eyes remember i was talking about uh pedro aguillard's wife with the
relevant i think so and um uh i kept pushing the fact maybe it was just as well that i didn't because
freaked out was we had just met with uh military x and then we were about to and then we doorstepped
uh that they were not going to take me they were going to take marco leal my partner and say that
that we just met with military x and they said oh there's a there's an american film crew uh poking
around uh did they uh reach out to you by any chance and our military x guy is like uh no no uh-uh
of here so so i found out two things after that one is uh i contacted his wife indirectly i can't
about this is it's like uh it's a prolonged investigation and this stuff's going to come
this comes out or maybe a little bit after uh there will be um a 30th anniversary celebration and
people are looking at uh the bravery and courage and courage of ethelo and that's not that's not going
two alive ones maybe we got more maybe we got three i don't know but uh the military sorry the chief of
time is uh blood blood so bladsoe saw that bladsoe's son has a tattoo of one with red eyes on what yes he
does yeah check it out i don't remember him telling me about that i saw it in a pool at uh
the chalkboard you know like oh let's cover this case bent waters phoenix lights yeah you know uh
jeff zaganski i'm sure he's fine me telling him telling you this and uh jeff goes um and i had a lot
nuclear physicist and ufo researcher uh uh stanton friedman oh okay yeah and he's the reason why a lot
over the place right wing left wing all that and uh when the moment of contact came out it was crickets
way everybody anybody would feel and i had a couple people i think it was uh the guy from minds uh sorry
one about paul benowitz i never saw that one i don't think yeah it it followed uh i think his name's
uh a big air force base there where they were testing stuff and he was okay he was an american
when did uh was he getting photographs of of like discs or like what do you know i mean do we have
that um was it like done by some dudes in britain funny enough netflix or uh i think i watched it on
of a uh a harmony kareen movie anyways um so benowitz got visited by rick dody rick dody found out
house and he's like you're like you're like uh you're like a guy who's like in the house and he