I'm nonpartisan. So I've dealt with all the way back to Clinton and the Obama and John Podesta,
who is John Warner the fourth, the son of Senator John Warner. I got to know years ago. And he said,
John Warner the fourth, not his father, the Senator Warner, but John Warner. I walk in, he goes,
story of John Warner the fourth, and he's having martinis, I believe, with Paul Mellon.
Colonel John Alexander as a long history in ufology. Often debunking, trying or attempting to do
John Mack as well, right? Yes, that was part of the betrayal. And he, I think he was, he was moved
his funds over into people who met well, like John Mack. I knew John Mack pretty well. But
did you like John Mack? Did he find him to be an honest actor? He was doing the best he could with
cards for the audience. John Mack, head of the Harvard Psychiatry Department. They did all work with
called stage craft doing this. Now, John Mack didn't know that, but Hopkins didn't know that.
named John Lear saying, here's this guy, Bob Lazar. And you know, he's been reverse engineering
experiment is there's exactly there's not a lot of archival footage of John Trump who is the
that's that's Ella John Sandoff shop that's Chris Melon's job that's uh you know frankly help put
that there's a letter dated november 12 1963 ten days before he died to john mccone john
the UFO issue and jfk's saying to john mccone we need to coordinate better with the Soviets on this
hopkins and even back then uh john mac and some other people is that and uh david jacob's
but hopkins or john mack now they didn't know that i was debriefing people who are the ones operating
John Lear we were talking about your good friend at you know where so could could you talk about