Yes. Okay, so I remember when I was 19 I was dating this girl Rachel Miller and she was a year older than me.
that would be 41 through 45.
It wouldn't have anything to do it.
I'm going to cater to that skeptic.
Yeah.
That's what I'm thinking the whole time when I'm making a film like if I'm going to report on a landing case, I better have a pretty compelling story.
Yeah.
Most while I witness testimony, things of that nature, then it like, then I started to report on not just landings, but people, you know, reporting beans associated and connected to the craft.
That's a slippery slope, right?
Particularly when I, you know, I remember when I did the phenomenon, I got that really big break and I got an interview with Senator Reed, former Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid.
And he wouldn't sign off on the film, I'm playing him.
He wouldn't sign off on the movie until after he could see it, right?
Well, I had, excuse me, an alleged landing case in Ruiz, in Bobway, 1994, where roughly, you know, there were 66 school children reported.
There were 100 school children in the playground when it happened.
We saw this like a silver thing down there.
It was a silver oval thing that flew past really slowly.
I saw the bigger one and a spaceship like four or five of them.
I'm like, he's going to take a look at this movie and go take me out, right?
Yeah.
We have a location and we have a date.
Squirrel, Sossar, and the Pentagon pantry.
And I come across these articles in the UFO bulletin by a woman named Carau Lorenzen, excuse me if I don't pronounce her name correctly, but she was writing articles about a landing that happened at Holman right around the same time.
You know, I cried when he died.
He's a my cried when he died genius.
who's a very prominent scientist,
that the spaceship crashed in New Mexico.
And I was working on my first film,
and I was an extra, I was a prison guard.
And I'm thinking myself, hell yeah.
So I borrow the money, excuse me,
with all due respects, so I traveled all the way here
just to meet with you, got the cameras going,
I'm all ready to go.
And I can't really afford to stay here forever.
You know, he goes, okay, okay, okay.
Well, meet me, let's just say it was a Friday.
Meet me tomorrow in the lobby, my hotel lobby.
No cameras rolling.
He said to me, no camera, don't have cameras rolling.
I said, I won't have any cameras rolling on each of the lobby.
So I show up a little early.
Tim Coleman, I have photographs of this somewhere.
Tim probably still does.
And a girl from the time of Samara sitting down at a cafe
and we're having like a croissant, some coffee,
and the concierge comes over.
And he says, Mr. Fox, you have a fun call.
I actually speak for him.
One of my, one of my few college accomplishments,
I learned French.
To put it in there, François.
Weege, a part come to put part, Savoir.
That's the one.
That's it.
Oh, chasseau, chasseau.
Oh, chasseau, chasseau, chasseau,
son son son son, chère, Faisy,
he's done, he's done, he's done, he's done, he's done.
So anyway, so he goes over and he says,
Mr. Fox is a telephone call for you.
You're not doing it.
It was like, I can't do it.
Oh, man.
Oh, man, I'm going to like this.
and like, he was like, so I was like, I did bring it up.
And actually, there was a guy who did a, a film on it.
packed up my gear, walked down to go leave and there lo and behold, was the key scratch
on the panel that I saw that it was playing his day.
brilliant move and go.
And a brilliant move is a move that makes no sense rationally.
And every single year it got refunded.
In the 1980s, the Defense Intelligence Agency began Project Stargate.
He said on the count of three, we're going to break.
You're going to go left.
Iran in 19.
object over Iran on the morning of September 19.
Maybe it was almost closer to three week expedition.
And Leslie and I were putting on this event at the National Press Club in 2007 where we're
He got his visa.
So he comes to DC and it's an incredible encounter.
But then in retrospect, he told me on camera, there was a very intimate, cool moment, you
know, on reflection of, you know, he had all these years to think about what had actually
I think in the next year or two.
So he told me about Rua.
other jobs.
You were battling cars.
But no, it was not.
It was very hard.
And that's awesome.
I'll give it to the relevance of the second, but I was, I was finally with him at his
And then later the document, right?
And so that's, I think the moment that that document walked its way out of his house
ready for it.
I don't know.
And it was actually made part of the record of the congressional hearings.
And I think that made how I feel a little more comfortable to even not to say that, hey,
I'm the only person to have interviewed Cabansag, Burrows, and Penicent.
All the three guys that went out that night to investigate that.
I'll tell them exactly how I feel.
Yeah.
This MI6 misalad affiliated, you know, kind of, definitely, definitely.
That's a fact.
And so it immediately falls into this sort of DOE classification system completely free
from oversight, is that right?
It took so long.
But I want to get back to you mentioned that guy HODL's FBI memo.
access as he stated in his own handwriting in July of 1947.
We must insist upon full access to discs recovered.
Hoover continued.
The army grabbed it and wouldn't let the bureau have it for cursory examination.
And it's in Jay Gahuever's own handwriting.
That's on this document.
It says, as in take the S A or S W could be Southwest.
And don't know.
Case.
The art, it was a crash desk.
The army grabbed it and wouldn't let us have it for cursory examination.
And it was written like five days or six days or a week after Roswell.
So that was, did you ever see that?
And I actually put at the time in out of the blue, of course, that's changed now because
that was probably late 90s or early 2000, probably late 90s.
And but that was the document that was on the FBI's own website.
I remember members of staff members of Congress at the time because I, it, God, it was, it was
right around 2000.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, look, like I remember watching Louis Elisando on 60 minutes.
I think they did a hit job on Mr. Grush.
Yeah.
really fast.
And of course, we've got things that are misidentified as you have.
me and make it quick kind of thing.
Like, okay, let's hit this, let's hit this hallway, you know, hit the hallway.
And I might be.
I don't know.
When he interviewed all these critical witnesses from like the 50s and 60s that were in their
twilight years.
He's so credible.
He's amazing.
Like it would work anytime.
But they tried to erase him.
And he was all excited.
I was in New York City to see Leslie.
Yeah, again, this is not my area of expertise.
And I don't really look- I don't not look into them.
And it doesn't really matter.
Bob Lazar and his tape.
It was exploding.
So, so I tell him, I said, keep my name out of it.
And, and so this guy's going to go out and Chuck says, yeah, I still have the VHS tape.
George Namp.
And I said, George, as I was wrapping up the phenomenon, I said, George, you have got
I got to go back to Brazil.
It'll come back around.
Louis Luzando's book.
There's other documentaries.
He says that they're bases on Mars and, you know,
that like the disc, right over the head of almost everybody,
We didn't call, we didn't yell from my husband,
we didn't get in our car,
you got some of that level of credibility,
of that level of government,
they were saying that COVID was zoonotic origin.
Like after everyone and their mother was saying,
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't blame him, you know, I don't blame him.