We're thinking about us landing in, you know, North Sentinel Island or French Polynesia back in the day. You know, it's like, what are these things? What's going on?
So, well, yeah, it's, I'm so excited to be here. I don't even know where to start. I mean, there's so many jumping off points. But how did you get into, guess, UFOs to begin with?
And so we drove across Europe together in this old Fiat 131 and just had a wonderful time and, and I was like six weeks across Europe. And then he flew home a little early and I stayed on. And we read, we just kind of.
You know, life happens and we just kind of lost contact for a couple of years. And then I came back and we reconnected when I was like 23. And he was all into like UFOs and alien spaceships and Roswell.
I remember my dad, it was a mainstream journalist and he was like, son, you have lost your marbles.
You'd need the best minds.
Yeah, of course you would.
So anyways.
Well, you know, it's funny because people often ask me, because I've had a net.
That's a slippery slope, right?
Particularly when I, you know, I remember when I did the phenomenon, I got that really big break and I got an interview with Senator Reed, former Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid.
And then we have to investigate, figure out how to classify it.
It's called the phenomena because it's hard to classify but there's something going on.
So yeah, I'm with you.
It's global, it's ubiquitous, it's like people would say to me like, well, what conclusions have you drawn from all the years?
And because I'm coming to the conclusion that I'm probably not going to know what's really going on.
I'm probably not going to ever get the full picture, right?
Yeah.
I mean, maybe, but I doubt it.
You might.
Maybe.
Maybe you're taking on a craft and giving it down the road.
But, but you know, one of the summaries I would give that I feel quite comfortable, the conclusion that I have reached is that the phenomenon is, has the ability to manifest itself.
It's ubiquitous and it can manifest itself in like a physical form, like technologically, like an engineered craft.
Yeah.
But also has a psychic ability as well.
I remember interviewing this guy who was a former, I think he was a Northwest Airlines, Northwest.
Yeah.
And I try to remember to describe the skin of them, but they had like a device.
And in the process of investigating, that was one of the cases that caused Dr. Heineck to do a complete 180 on close and kind of the third kind.
I believe that the creatures, you know, that that that Sikoro happened. It was the case that turned around Heineck.
Why not have cameras rolling and have it happen just, you know, it white sands are all in Air Force Base, which is really close by.
The way it's coming down. So it comes down. He goes, it landed and he goes, you know, James, it was just like a sci-fi movie. You know, those doors just open. And there's no seam or anything.
He said, that's what it looked like. It opened and dropped. And then two individuals, beans, aliens, whatever you want to call them. This is according to Alan Sandler. He told me this. They came out and they flanked the stairs on other side. And then the main guy got out.
And also it smelled it. It was not that smell that was that as soon as you entered the room. Yes, it was and that's what struck me as unusual. Why did this smelly junk would be piled on the general's carpet? That was one of the few recollections that I have.
That didn't make sense. I mean, the hospital where the beans were reported, reportedly, this they were done x-rays. They had to close that.
That's why I'm thinking, oh, boy, this is pretty crazy. The story like really they had telepathic communication. Like there's some smoke started to fill the room. And there was like telepathic communicate. This is according to him in his book, right.
And I'm thinking, my God, there was communication face to face with the aliens by the doctors and everything else in the book is totally accurate because I have the tapes. Then he just goes off an attention about communication with these aliens in the hospital building.
Do you know what I'm saying? So, but those doctors are still alive. So I'm going to go back to shit. Go back. I am going back as I've got two forensic pathologists that are coming there.
Yeah, sure.
Just revamp it. Bring it up to bring it up to date.
Well, it's funny because so with the program again, I'm talking about Crash of Treeville.
My previous film was all about a specific case of Crash of Treeville and the American involvement.
I want the program to come out and get people to do more work on it.
I mean, I think it's a really big deeper.
He's a my cried when he died genius.
Also here in Washington,
Let's go.
You know, you're like son.
When I wasn't editing my house,
we were going back and forth.
and I was an extra, I was a prison guard.
And I get the guy, whoa, so what else do you like to do?
So I borrow the money, excuse me,
I borrow the money, I get the camera gear,
The fact that he saw the K, he saw the massive UFO that he said
was just had to be on the road because it was over a mile
from wingtip to wingtip.
This is the famous Phoenix lights.
It's like the 1997, March 13th.
In 1997, thousands of people in Phoenix, Arizona
witnessed a massive V-shaped formation of lights moving silently across the sky.
Known as the Phoenix lights, the phenomenon sparked widespread speculation
about UFOs.
While some officials claimed the lights were military flares,
many witnesses remained convinced they saw something otherworldly.
So I broke that story.
I interviewed the governor of Arizona five-semitine.
We had become friends.
And that catapulted me into, I mean, I got invitations on to every talk show.
I mean, it was unbelievable.
And five actually said, James is the one that broke the story with me.
He's the one that approached me.
Different views from what you've seen.
Well, I'm not sure.
Often not.
Yeah.
You know, and he wanted to add like cheesy smoke to a scene, you know, the kind of stuff
that one expects with a UFO film back in the day, you know, all the things I wanted to
I actually told how I put off about it.
Well, I was going to say he could explain it.
And William James is a big fan of this called trawl transmission.
Experiencers have a certain...
But I'm also have had some experiences that have to get me to be open to, you know, who
knows?
You're going to run as fast you can.
I'm telling you, I swear and boom, just like there was like instant, we just looked at
I love going around the world.
I love meeting with different people, cultures, you know, languages and hearing about the
So he comes to DC and it's an incredible encounter.
It was at night.
He told you about the area.
He told me about aeroschool in the 90s.
So that's amazing.
I worked at a hotel.
It's getting easier now.
It's friendly.
And I think that made how I feel a little more comfortable to even not to say that, hey,
look, I can affirm this or like, you know, but he didn't say, you know what?
I think they said that, yeah, that could be done.
Yeah.
And so for people who don't know John Alexander is this long period of debate with him.
All the three guys that went out that night to investigate that.
And Cabansag got cold feet when I met with him.
I'm highly dubious of.
Oh, it's for sure.
It's going to be a case that people are going to have trouble with.
Yeah.
like he was a disinfo arm or extension clearly to me.
Like he was, you know, and he was a little Cooper, guys like that.
Yeah.
And intelligence-associated guy.
Remember, we talked about that earlier.
Condon has the same sort of kangaroo court process.
to be the deepest in the, on the majestic 12 or whatever equivalent committee or whatever.
Stanton Friedman was a real advocate for that.
And Condon even is talks about this.
This is a transcript where Condon is talking about this in an American Institute of Physics
It says, as in take the S A or S W could be Southwest.
And don't know.
That's what they used.
And I had 535 VHS tapes that I gave out to every member of the house and Senate.
Yeah.
Keep keeping.
I posted something on on X and Twitter X.
I don't know, maybe it was like a year ago or something and people were really discouraged
because, you know, David Grush comes forward and says all the things he says and it's
amazing, Grush wearings.
And then it seemed like we almost kind of went backwards a little bit.
I think they did a hit job on Mr. Grush.
Yeah.
There were some denials and, you know, and I said, everybody calm down because people were
really freaking out.
I said, I've seen this pattern, you know, increments, nothing like what I've seen in
2017 now, but hey, I've seen efforts to get the stuff out and we are making progress.
There's no question about it.
I mean, I remember in 2007, 2008, there was a release of previously classified documents
at the British government, French government that started releasing stuff.
There's stuff coming out.
There's press conferences.
There's things happening.
And now that has escalated between 2017 and today, 2024 exponentially, in my opinion,
I just tell everybody, like, you know, those are feeling discouraged.
Look, I don't blame them.
I get it.
Like, that's not anecdotal.
I'm sorry.
In the opinion of anyone that looked into this irrefutable evidence, irrefutable data
that there's a technology that exhibits characteristics that are light years advanced, you know,
Apparently in Russia they would use nuclear material to bait.
I do have a got to Russia.
And of course, we've got things that are misidentified as you have.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, okay, let's hit this, let's hit this hallway, you know, hit the hallway.
And I'm like, while I'm walking with the former Senate Majority Leader, who spearheaded
So it's one of these things where, you know, I always, this is how I take skeptics down
the rabbit.
UFOs and aliens or whatever.
He's a Nobel nominee every year.
So it's like you're kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Yeah, if you do, it's like, I base, I base my beliefs today on my interaction with witnesses,
I mean, it was all over the news.
Everybody's, you know, because wow, it's true.
Anybody knows half inch VHS playing over those heads for 25 years, it's not going to
look great.
And, and so this guy's going to go out and Chuck says, yeah, I still have the VHS tape.
I'll show it to you.
I got to update that film.
Yeah.
That's just non-terrestrial officers.
With ranks and names and then a separate sheet
What, like, what is that?
And then the craft.
I was like, is that what they were talking about?
We're in touch.
because I was like, get in the car, chase it, you know,
get camera, didn't do any of that.
And the news nationwide was gonna run, and they were gonna run that.
Yeah, and the execution of how that all came about,
Well, they've been in April of, you know, 22 or something,
Like after everyone and their mother was saying,
this is obviously came from a lab.
I don't.
I really tried to do his story, just as, and not for any other reason