And Paul Sharlwood, North and Air Force based so to Tim, because Paul got a call from a guy named Colonel Colonel Coleman was a guy interviewed who was public relations at the Pentagon in the 70s. I interviewed Coleman about it.
in the early 70s, because you had the Condon Commission sort of basically just kill Blue
in the in the 50s, 60s, 70s all the way up to 2004.
You didn't have dark, dark was I think the early 70s or like late 60s.
I don't know if it was early as the 70s, but definitely the 80s and 90s.