So I count that as almost two, but it's at least one and a half because I spent another two and a half years completely revamping it.
So I did 50 years of denial, then it was out of the blue, out of the blue, director's cut.
UFOs 50 years of denial because everyone was like, well, it conflicts with religion.
You know, life happens and we just kind of lost contact for a couple of years. And then I came back and we reconnected when I was like 23. And he was all into like UFOs and alien spaceships and Roswell.
It's in the phenomenon and I don't know if there are any particular names. They're probably were. I'd have to look back. It's been a few years since I've seen the document.
A lot of the cases that I've reported on over the years, I didn't believe when I first heard about them.
One of the things I've learned over the years, over the decades, is to suspend judgment.
It's global, it's ubiquitous, it's like people would say to me like, well, what conclusions have you drawn from all the years?
No idea. I'm just saying what he, what he told me and Paul Sharlwood, a few years later was involved in head on collision with him as wife. He was dead.
In this case, it just happened a couple of years earlier. And I had a partner, this guy Tim Coleman who's a former BBC correspondent, super smart guy walking in psychopedia, massive respect for this guy.
There are of a UFO crash. Like I looked at them like, oh, God, please. And not only did I not look into it, but I refuse to look into it for I think 10 years. Maybe.
People knew the lengths that I went to to get people to go on camera. Like people think that they're just out there trying to sell. No, it took years. We would find witnesses and they were like, I am not coming forward. Period's not going to happen. What's in it for me? Yeah.
I was investigating this landing case happened in the 60s. They're like, all right. We've been going at it for 50 years and these particular witnesses are never going to talk a period.
They're just giving me in the room with them. I got two of them to talk after 50 years. So I looked this guy in the eyes.
You know, and he's looking at me like a UN agent. Yeah. Are you a secret US government agent? I'm like, no, you can look me up. You know, I'm got a reputation. I've been doing this for 30 years. Like go ahead and Google me. You know, one of the reasons he might have been paranoid is because he mentions to you that the body goes from hospital to hospital. But it ends up probably going the United States.
I'm like, you have no idea what it took to get every single witness on camera. It took years of begging and pleading, you know, and there are still people that we identified people that have the footage.
So I made arrangements to, I mean, it's like the stars aligned somehow and they all disagreed for the first time ever to get back together after 20 years of the case. The landing case in Rua's in Bobway.
He has studied and lectured on UFOs for almost 30 years.
And you could you could easily push back and say the last six or seven years post 2017.
There's some intuitive sense I have that in the next five to 10 years,
I wouldn't have said this five years ago, but.
aligned with my 30 years of research.
He's like 20 years old.
I had fast forward probably 10 years.
The last contact I'd have with Buzz Aldrin was roughly 10 years earlier when he stood
For 40 years, I've been studying the properties of consciousness and it goes throughout all
I was 13 years old.
I was 13 years old.
know, on reflection of, you know, he had all these years to think about what had actually
But during the making of the phenomenon, I mean, I, that was an eight year, eight years.
Having had, you know, what, 20 years or 17 years into my belt.
in the next five years.
that there's a technology that exhibits characteristics that are light years advanced, you know,
Oh, that's 75 years easily.
twilight years.
It was like almost 20 years ago.
know, light years like, ding, ding, ding.
I said, well, you know, the sky truck, Clark barely still has it, but it had been 26 years
Anybody knows half inch VHS playing over those heads for 25 years, it's not going to
you because Chuck Clark is pissed off with me because I asked him every two years for 15
years to get that tape.
And this is a couple years ago.
So yeah, couple years ago.
all these years on Area 51, Bob Lazar and UFO's at Area 51.
they wanted to lock him up for like 60 years.
Yeah, he writes, two years ago.
Two years ago, he writes his biography.