And Paul Sharlwood, North and Air Force based so to Tim, because Paul got a call from a guy named Colonel Colonel Coleman was a guy interviewed who was public relations at the Pentagon in the 70s. I interviewed Coleman about it.
And so Paul happens to show it to Alan. And Bob wasn't there that day at North and Air Force base and men and suits either later that day or the very next morning showed up confiscated the footage and said, don't ever talk about it.