And Paul Sharlwood, North and Air Force based so to Tim, because Paul got a call from a guy named Colonel Colonel Coleman was a guy interviewed who was public relations at the Pentagon in the 70s. I interviewed Coleman about it.
In this case, it just happened a couple of years earlier. And I had a partner, this guy Tim Coleman who's a former BBC correspondent, super smart guy walking in psychopedia, massive respect for this guy.
get my buddy, Tim Coleman, my partner at the time,
Tim Coleman, I have photographs of this somewhere.
It's probably late 90s or 2000 and we get into an argument, me and this guy Tim Coleman,